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My pleasure...I once bought a box of 100 30-second loop cassettes (answering machine tapes) off Ebay for one red cent. Soon I realized that for the kind of looping I do in regular playing, I like shorter homemade straight loop tapes of about nine seconds, which can also be flipped over for reverse effects (the answering machine tapes are a Mobius strip that can only be played in one direction). In fooling around with a 30-second tape, I built up a loop, and at some point I felt like it was "finished", a complete piece of music to which nothing else really needed to be added. I let the sucker loop in the background for a good hour or so and really enjoyed how, even in hearing exactly the same thing over and over with no long-term development, my appreciation of it would change and I'd notice different things. So I'm going through these tapes - occasionally cutting them up or making different kinds of loops out of them - making these wholly static pieces. I listen to them all the time, myself, always just letting them percolate one at a time for a good while. It's a different kind of listening experience, and certainly an interesting creation experience too, as the nature of tape looping precludes the possibility of having a metronomic beat. Building the loop is pleasingly unpredictable. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I'm intrigued. Can you share the orig. thread? More about repetitive > miniatures and your ideas? > -Qua >