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Daryl, Thanks for the link to your miniatures. I'm really enjoying them, and I like the mix of high and low fidelity. The mix of quiet gentle acoustic guitar and sonic strangulation is very beautiful and nostalgic. I can only put mp3s on infinite repeat in the windows player, but yours open in quicktime. I'll work on that so that I can listen to them for a longer period of time as you intend. The miniatures are screaming out to be listened to for a longer period. When I bought my first EDP I gravitated into improvising and creating a loop over a very long period of time, multiplying, reversing, experimenting etc. and when I was satisfied with the texture, I would set the feedback to 100% and record the thing looping over and over for about 5-10 minutes or so (on a Tascam 424!). I found when I listened to them, I wished that I had recorded them for a longer period - I kept having to stop it and rewind to continue, which would kind of blow the experience. Your idea of creating and release nothing but static loops which could be repeated seamlessly as long as the listener likes is fascinating. Whatever format you ultimately choose, I'll certainly buy one. Thanks again. ~Greg -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Shawn [mailto:highhorse@mhorse.com] Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:36 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repetitive Miniatures My pleasure...I once bought a box of 100 30-second loop cassettes (answering machine tapes) off Ebay for one red cent. Soon I realized that for the kind of looping I do in regular playing, I like shorter homemade straight loop tapes of about nine seconds, which can also be flipped over for reverse effects (the answering machine tapes are a Mobius strip that can only be played in one direction). In fooling around with a 30-second tape, I built up a loop, and at some point I felt like it was "finished", a complete piece of music to which nothing else really needed to be added. I let the sucker loop in the background for a good hour or so and really enjoyed how, even in hearing exactly the same thing over and over with no long-term development, my appreciation of it would change and I'd notice different things. So I'm going through these tapes - occasionally cutting them up or making different kinds of loops out of them - making these wholly static pieces. I listen to them all the time, myself, always just letting them percolate one at a time for a good while. It's a different kind of listening experience, and certainly an interesting creation experience too, as the nature of tape looping precludes the possibility of having a metronomic beat. Building the loop is pleasingly unpredictable. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I'm intrigued. Can you share the orig. thread? More about repetitive > miniatures and your ideas? > -Qua >