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Re: Stockhausen, R.I.P.



maybe we shouldn't forget that stockhausen believed to be a "lichtwesen",
trained on sirius...a far out character, indeed.

here is a translation of part of his quote from the aformentioned press 
conference (i copied this from wikipedia):

So: What happened there is - now all of you must adjust your brains - the 
biggest work of art there has ever been. The spirit achieves in one act 
something which we in music could never dream of, that people practise ten 
years fanatically for a concert. And then die. And that is the greatest 
work 
of art that exists in the whole Cosmos.[2]

and the german version:

"Daß Menschen in einem Akt etwas vollbringen, was wir in der Musik nicht 
träumen könnten, dass Leute zehn Jahre üben wie verrückt, total fanatisch 
für ein Konzert und dann sterben, stellen Sie sich das doch vor, was da 
passiert ist. Da sind also Leute, die sind so konzentriert für eine 
Aufführung und dann werden fünftausend Leute in die Auferstehung gejagt, 
in 
einem Moment. Das könnte ich nicht. Dagegen sind wir gar nichts als 
Komponisten. Manche Künstler versuchen doch auch über die Grenze des 
überhaupt Denkbaren und Möglichen zu gehen, damit wir wach werden, damit 
wir 
uns für eine andere Welt öffnen . Ein Verbrechen ist es deshalb, weil die 
Menschen nicht einverstanden waren. Die sind nicht in das Konzert 
gekommen. 
Das ist klar. Und es hat ihnen niemand angekündigt, Ihr könntet dabei 
draufgehen."

i'll try a translation:
"that people perform an act, as we couldn't dream of in music, that people 
practise for ten years like crazy, totally fanatic, for a concert - and 
then 
die.
please imagine what has happened here.
there are people completely concentrated on a performance and then 5000 
people get pushed into resurrection, in an instant. I could not do that. 
compared to this, we composers are nothing. some artists try to transcend 
the limits of thought and possible actions, so we may wake up and open to 
other possibles worlds...a crime it is, because the people did not agree 
with it. they were not going to the concert. that is for sure. and nobody 
had announced to them: you could die."

yours - tilmann



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: Stockhausen, R.I.P.


> Here's his statement (that is, his followup) in full, on his site.
>
> http://www.stockhausen.org/message_from_karlheinz.html
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>> This is very interesting.
>> Do you have a link to the original article/interview where he first 
>said 
>> it?
>> I would be interested to read the full original text.
>>
>