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maybe we shouldn't forget that stockhausen believed to be a "lichtwesen", trained on sirius...a far out character, indeed. here is a translation of part of his quote from the aformentioned press conference (i copied this from wikipedia): So: What happened there is - now all of you must adjust your brains - the biggest work of art there has ever been. The spirit achieves in one act something which we in music could never dream of, that people practise ten years fanatically for a concert. And then die. And that is the greatest work of art that exists in the whole Cosmos.[2] and the german version: "Daß Menschen in einem Akt etwas vollbringen, was wir in der Musik nicht träumen könnten, dass Leute zehn Jahre üben wie verrückt, total fanatisch für ein Konzert und dann sterben, stellen Sie sich das doch vor, was da passiert ist. Da sind also Leute, die sind so konzentriert für eine Aufführung und dann werden fünftausend Leute in die Auferstehung gejagt, in einem Moment. Das könnte ich nicht. Dagegen sind wir gar nichts als Komponisten. Manche Künstler versuchen doch auch über die Grenze des überhaupt Denkbaren und Möglichen zu gehen, damit wir wach werden, damit wir uns für eine andere Welt öffnen . Ein Verbrechen ist es deshalb, weil die Menschen nicht einverstanden waren. Die sind nicht in das Konzert gekommen. Das ist klar. Und es hat ihnen niemand angekündigt, Ihr könntet dabei draufgehen." i'll try a translation: "that people perform an act, as we couldn't dream of in music, that people practise for ten years like crazy, totally fanatic, for a concert - and then die. please imagine what has happened here. there are people completely concentrated on a performance and then 5000 people get pushed into resurrection, in an instant. I could not do that. compared to this, we composers are nothing. some artists try to transcend the limits of thought and possible actions, so we may wake up and open to other possibles worlds...a crime it is, because the people did not agree with it. they were not going to the concert. that is for sure. and nobody had announced to them: you could die." yours - tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 7:37 PM Subject: Re: Stockhausen, R.I.P. > Here's his statement (that is, his followup) in full, on his site. > > http://www.stockhausen.org/message_from_karlheinz.html > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> This is very interesting. >> Do you have a link to the original article/interview where he first >said >> it? >> I would be interested to read the full original text. >> >