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Not really much difference at all. The colors don't differentiate Gibson from Oberheim. Many of the Gibson models were still white and identical except for the company name. The black means it's the "Pro" version that Gibson introduced. I believe the only difference is that the Pro version has a CE rating. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Ricky Graham [mailto:rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 10:36 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Oberheim/Gibson? Hi Guys, Please excuse my ignorance, but i'm hoping to invest in an echoplex for the first time this week and I was hoping that you might be able to tell me if there is a great deal of difference between the oberheim (white) and gibson (black) models? Thanks very much for your help! Ricky