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The Rang maker, Mike, indeed hasn't been present. While he is a nice guy and easy to deal with, I have noticed a certain "commercial arrogance" from him with regards to some of the noise problems, as in, "That's the way it's designed, not everyone has a problem like you, so do someting else." Now that something else might work, but it's another $200! I wonder how such an amazingly high profile gathering of loopers is so LOW on the radar scopes of looping companies. I've done product development for 17 years and lists like this would be scanned every week if I was in the business of making loopers. c'est la vie.... ~peace~ Plish > thats right. mike's his name. i never saw him here. > now i have not been here all the time so.... > > --Adrian Bartholomew > Quincy, IL > "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." > > On Sunday9,Mar 2008, at 10:05 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > >> thank you for forwarding, Andy! >> >> this list grew out of making the EDP! >> I started a community in '92 with Eric, Willy, Ljubo, Michael Peters >> and others and '94 Kim joined and brought us on line in '96, >> together with another root that came from the DT list... >> and list members Andre LaFosse, Andy Butler, Claude Voit, Bernhard >> Wagner and others turned into makers of the EDP! >> >> many other loop tools grew out of this list and their makers like >> Bob, Mike, Jeff, Jesse, Os, Aaron,,, are more or less present. >> we also had visits of the older masters Gary Hall (PCM42), Bob >> Sellom (PCM42, JamMan) ! >> the products we create are not limited to the vision of some 9-5 >> engineers but turn into pools for all the ideas and wishes flying >> arround here... >> >> Looping is not so much a new technology as a new way to create, an >> new category of tools (neither instrument nor effect nor >> recorder...) and we even experience a new spirit of collaboration... >> some kind of a friendly industry branch? >> well, nobody made the big money yet, which usually attracts the >> sharks ;-) >> ...and Roland, who made the most money with the least suitable tool, >> is not present. >> >> I confess that I dont look through all LD mails any more :-( >> during many years I spent hours and hours to explain all I knew >> about the EDP and Art as clear and short as possible... >> so sometimes I dont answer because I think the answer is arround in >> the archives or with members that went into it >> and some things I forgot because I dont use it and was involved with >> other technology >> but some times I love to say something new and spend time for >> research and typing what is not my language... >> ...and recently I came back to programming for LOOP, so I may start >> questions here ;-) >> >> in any case, I am happy if you copy a mail to me privately if you >> feel its of interest for me >> or if you think I should say something about it! >> >> I hope I manage to make you the best vocal looper ;-) >> Matthias >> >> On 9 Mar 2008, at 18:18, andy butler wrote: >> >>> >>>> BUT DID YOU SEE THAT??? >>>> the maker himself wrote in answer to the undo problem!!! i havent >>>> seen the RANG owners or the makers of the EDP ever respond to >>>> anything on this forum. >>>> way to go Bob. ill start calling YOU tuner peg. lol. >>>> looking forward to the UNDO. YESSSSSSSS. >>>>> >>> >>> EDP "maker", and inventor of Undo, Matthias Grob is always on hand >>> here. >>> >>> Kim Flint, his erstwhile partner in Aurisis (the company that >>> brought you the EDP) >>> maintains this list more or less at his own expense. >>> >>> , >>> ...not to detract from Bob's achievement and dedication of course. >>> >>> andy butler >>> >>> >> > >