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Don't forget Butchie "RC" Roland. You cant get that guy to shut up. The problem is, is you can never hear the first 2 words of anything he says. On Mar 10, 2008, at 2:24 PM, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > The Rang maker, Mike, indeed hasn't been present. While he is a > nice guy > and easy to deal with, I have noticed a certain "commercial arrogance" > from him with regards to some of the noise problems, as in, "That's > the > way it's designed, not everyone has a problem like you, so do someting > else." Now that something else might work, but it's another $200! > > I wonder how such an amazingly high profile gathering of loopers is > so LOW > on the radar scopes of looping companies. I've done product > development > for 17 years and lists like this would be scanned every week if I > was in > the business of making loopers. > > c'est la vie.... > > ~peace~ > Plish > > >> thats right. mike's his name. i never saw him here. >> now i have not been here all the time so.... >> >> --Adrian Bartholomew >> Quincy, IL >> "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." >> >> On Sunday9,Mar 2008, at 10:05 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: >> >>> thank you for forwarding, Andy! >>> >>> this list grew out of making the EDP! >>> I started a community in '92 with Eric, Willy, Ljubo, Michael Peters >>> and others and '94 Kim joined and brought us on line in '96, >>> together with another root that came from the DT list... >>> and list members Andre LaFosse, Andy Butler, Claude Voit, Bernhard >>> Wagner and others turned into makers of the EDP! >>> >>> many other loop tools grew out of this list and their makers like >>> Bob, Mike, Jeff, Jesse, Os, Aaron,,, are more or less present. >>> we also had visits of the older masters Gary Hall (PCM42), Bob >>> Sellom (PCM42, JamMan) ! >>> the products we create are not limited to the vision of some 9-5 >>> engineers but turn into pools for all the ideas and wishes flying >>> arround here... >>> >>> Looping is not so much a new technology as a new way to create, an >>> new category of tools (neither instrument nor effect nor >>> recorder...) and we even experience a new spirit of collaboration... >>> some kind of a friendly industry branch? >>> well, nobody made the big money yet, which usually attracts the >>> sharks ;-) >>> ...and Roland, who made the most money with the least suitable tool, >>> is not present. >>> >>> I confess that I dont look through all LD mails any more :-( >>> during many years I spent hours and hours to explain all I knew >>> about the EDP and Art as clear and short as possible... >>> so sometimes I dont answer because I think the answer is arround in >>> the archives or with members that went into it >>> and some things I forgot because I dont use it and was involved with >>> other technology >>> but some times I love to say something new and spend time for >>> research and typing what is not my language... >>> ...and recently I came back to programming for LOOP, so I may start >>> questions here ;-) >>> >>> in any case, I am happy if you copy a mail to me privately if you >>> feel its of interest for me >>> or if you think I should say something about it! >>> >>> I hope I manage to make you the best vocal looper ;-) >>> Matthias >>> >>> On 9 Mar 2008, at 18:18, andy butler wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> BUT DID YOU SEE THAT??? >>>>> the maker himself wrote in answer to the undo problem!!! i havent >>>>> seen the RANG owners or the makers of the EDP ever respond to >>>>> anything on this forum. >>>>> way to go Bob. ill start calling YOU tuner peg. lol. >>>>> looking forward to the UNDO. YESSSSSSSS. >>>>>> >>>> >>>> EDP "maker", and inventor of Undo, Matthias Grob is always on hand >>>> here. >>>> >>>> Kim Flint, his erstwhile partner in Aurisis (the company that >>>> brought you the EDP) >>>> maintains this list more or less at his own expense. >>>> >>>> , >>>> ...not to detract from Bob's achievement and dedication of course. >>>> >>>> andy butler >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >