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Heh. Replace "tube" with "hardware looper" or "Max patch" or "delay pedal" or "reverb" or "MIDI pedal" or "Firewire interface" and you'd dismiss just about all conversation on the list....gearheads are obsessive by nature, we each have our own poison. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I love the tube guys. Working that hard to find the exact right tubes. > I wish I had less to worry about and more free time, then I could find > that killer pre-war tungsten 12ax7.