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Nice question, Rick. As evidenced by Per, working with a lot of simultaneously loops makes the compositional process too slow for a live performance. What i am actually using are 2-4 tracks playing simultaneously. With Mobius i tend to record on track1/loop1 the basic cluster of my composition and then switch-overdub to loop2 to add a variation (it can be just a simple reverse/half speed) and so on on loop3 and sometimes on loop4. All in track 1. Then i move to record-overdub-substitute on the other tracks, mantaining in every moment the opportunty to change the basic cluster switching loops on track1. Frequently, on track2 i have a multiplied loop of that's playing on tr.1 that does structure the composition. On tr.3 I hardly use feedback to continously change what i'm playing, switching sometimes on tr.2 to mofify that one too. Tr.4 is my unsynched and unquantized track i use for recording soundscapes, effects tails or strange sounds that i want to stay out of synch. To avoid the timbral masking, i have different pan settings on each track, so each loop timbral can be clearly perceived. Fabio www.eterogeneo.com