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Hey Rick, > To me, if you overdub different parts (as opposed to just > either doubling > or harmonizing an > individual loop) in a piece of music it doesn't really matter > whether they are all > in one loop (the DL-4 or EDP paradigm) or have them running That makes perfect sense to me. So basically by that definition, everything which is a separate part is another simulataneous loop. Although I even see the problem to draw the line between "harmonizing" and "overdubbing a different part". But by that musical not tech definition, looped sequences in a MIDI sequencer would count as simultaneous loops? > How many loops do you tend to use in a piece of music. > If there is such a thing as a typical Rainer Straschill set > up for a 'song' > what would it be. Let's see...there's drum and bass part, or chords part, and there's noodling on top of it, which may also be a loop. But then again, if you listen e.g. to "Fook Yew" on "Weird Specialist" (http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/16603(, you have drums (MIDI), a synth percussion effects loop (sampler), bass (MIDI), organ (MIDI - I believe), two guitars (Mobius) - that makes six. Let's look at some of the material from "Neinnein auf dem kleinen Weg" - typically drums (pattern sequencer) and up to four tracks (each with an individual loop) of Repeater - so that's five or less. I guess that's it. It starts with one and only very rarely goes beyond six, but most of the time (I'm guessing above 90%) is in the two to four region. Rainer