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Thanks Todd, Rick, David, and all the others who've contributed to this oh-so-very-interesting subject. As Rick so succinctly pointed out, the musical world in the US has changed dramatically over the last few decades. Methinks that, on a commercial level at least, that the Music Industry has choked and crippled the life of the working musician. We all have heard (or experienced) countless sordid stories of manipulation and exploitation by record labels, club owners, managers, etc. An example via a friend of mine who has played in a steel drum band in the streets of Seattle and touring around the country since 1985, he has seen the band go from a fairly comfortable living (of course this means living frugally), to each band member having to take on various outside jobs just to make ends meet. He tells me that the post 9-11 world we live in has tightened everyone's pocketbook. I myself am a teacher of children. I work at a local Middle School in the after-school program teaching African Marimba Ensemble as well as marimba building in the wood shop. And I make a whopping $17/hour... less than most teachers. Fortunately, I make quite a bit more than that when I do my carpentry work. I don’t regret any of this. The poor state of the Music Industry, the low pay that teachers get, the lack of acknowledgement or respect that our society offers musicians, none of this. In a twist on what has been said before, my favourite phrase is “I’ll play for free but you have to pay me to schlep…”, thus offering the innocent bystander a look into the world of a musician. The funny part about that is how much I really feel that sentiment. I love playing for other people. At the same time, it’s a lot of work to rehearse, schlep instruments, organize gigs, haggle for money, THAT’S what I feel I should be getting paid for. And the next time anyone tells me how much great publicity I will get for playing their gig for free… I’m going to charge them $10 just for saying that. And if they insist that it’s true, I’ll charge them another $10. Then say that it’s probably the most money I’ll ever make from doing a free gig for them. :) I have a 9 piece African marimba ensemble in Seattle. Some of my band members live 90 minutes away, others live on various islands in the Puget Sound. We totaled it up one day, it takes about $125 for petrol and ferry tickets just for the whole band to make it to one rehearsal. Now, if you want me to play for free, are you willing to pay our expenses? Like for two rehearsals plus getting to the gig? $375 gets you a free gig. Anything less comes directly out of our pockets. That being said, nobody in this band is doing it for the money. Neither do any of us get paid. And oftentimes we all decide to do a gig for ‘free’, meaning we’ll put up that transport money ourselves. I build and maintain all the instruments, plus arrange all the music and run the rehearsals, load and unload the van, maintain the van, etc. Whatever money we do make, goes into a band fund to make CD’s, or purchase a few odd bits of recording gear or whatever. None of us ever get paid anything. And I have absolutely no complaints. The music is so incredibly satisfying to play, it gives so much to all of us. I just feel so lucky to have found my way into this particular world of music. I do still haggle for money when we do gigs. I’ve lost a few gigs because we were too expensive. Most of the time this is a good thing because when someone takes us too much for granted, the gig will turn out awful as well. For anyone interested enough to look into my world of African Marimba, our MySpace page is: http://profile.myspace.com/nyamuziwamarimba In the world of Looping, this is another story entirely for me as I’ve yet to do a significant looping gig, certainly not one I’ve gotten paid for. I play keyboards and work improvisationally with one or two other musicians at a time. The music I play comes from a place deep within. Or perhaps 'deep without'. Most of what we’ve done has taken place in the studio. This I enjoy immensely as well. Every once in a while, the studio tapes will be edited down to a CD release. I pass them out to friends as often as I can. I’m not one to try and sell my music. I don’t have the heart for it. Nor do I want to hire someone to try and place my music in the commercial world. It just doesn’t feel right. You know, it’s funny, I’ve always heard the phrase “Property is Theft” and never paid it much mind. The older I get, the more I find myself agreeing with the statement. I’d even take it one step further and say “Intellectual Property is Theft”, perhaps what our friend Mr. Von Vliet was trying to say. I realize that this sentiment may put me at odds with many of my peers. I’m not sure what to say about that other than that’s the way it goes… I personally do not believe in owning any of the music that passes through me. That doesn’t mean that I won’t sell CD’s, as I’m being paid for all the hard work that goes into bringing that little piece of plastic into this world, not the summoning of the muse. David Gans writes: <<< Every one of us in this bidness watches in horror as profoundly unworthy artists prosper while genius and innovation go begging. There is no justice, and it's damn hard to get any. I don't see much point in raging about it.>>> I don’t quite see things this way. I do not watch the above scenario in horror, rather with interest and compassion. This is after all, the way that the world IS. In that sense, things are already perfect as they currently sit. My own responsibility towards above mentioned lack of justice is to find a way to dance through it all, with my head above the muck and a smile on my face. In that sense, I agree with David, there is not much point in raging about it. I don’t suggest that anyone else hold the same things dearly, just that we all find out for ourselves what it is that IS dear to us, then follow that for the rest of our lives. How could this make the world anything but a better place? Cheers, Stephen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com