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Oh yes and also you don't violate the rules properly/artistically/seriously if you don't have a very clear idea of what they are... all _real_ musical innovators had solid ground in what was there before hence a history of transcribe, study, imitate, the elders. Claude andy butler a écrit : snip > > Somewhere there's a Stockhausen quote about imitation coming before > innovation. > Probably from a book that was in our local library before it burned > down, so > no way to trace it. > I think there was even an intermediate phase of "transformation" (taking > the imitated stuff and changing it). > > So it seems for most musicians, it starts with imitation of others > (perhaps using transcription), and then may progress to working > variations on other peoples ideas before ending up as innovation. > > The other side of the coin might well be those who innovate because they > lack the > ability to imitate. > andy butler > > > > > >