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>> Are people who use DL4's not considered "proper" loopers then? > Not if they're just using it for the 15 delay models, no. I don't get it. Is it a "using a delay is not looping" kind of argument (which would, among others, consider Robert Fripp a non-proper looper), or a "size matters" kind of argument (if so, where is the line which separates the loopers from the non-loopers - I recon somewhere between the DL4 delay models' 2.5sec and its looper's 14sec - but where?)