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having a looper on stage makes you a looper owner. at the moment you loop music live on stage - you are a looper. this is a variaton of what a clarinet teacher once tolde me: if you don't practice, you are not a player, you are just a clarinet owner. best - tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 9:07 PM Subject: AW: FAVORITE LIVE LOOPERS: a new list >>> Are people who use DL4's not considered "proper" loopers then? >> Not if they're just using it for the 15 delay models, no. > > I don't get it. Is it a "using a delay is not looping" kind of argument > (which would, among others, consider Robert Fripp a non-proper looper), >or > a > "size matters" kind of argument (if so, where is the line which separates > the loopers from the non-loopers - I recon somewhere between the DL4 >delay > models' 2.5sec and its looper's 14sec - but where?) >