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At 12:52 PM -0700 5/24/08, Cara Quinn wrote: > > I dl'ed the manual but as you said, it's a bit out of date. >There's got to be a list somewhere of the complete feature set with >all the current updates taken into account. Not really. :( Your best bet is to go through the release notes for each update under this thread: http://www.looperlative.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=6&sid=998c8bda08bfe01f292b5005e48fbf02 The first post gives a listing of the new features rolled out under each release -- usually only four or five items. It's a bit of a pain, but once you start going through them it's not as irritating as you'd initially think. >* Does the current Upgrade offer time stretching / pitch variance? >(as with the Repeater) As Kevin explained, the LP-1 will do time/pitch variance. However, as a past Repeater user, you should be aware that the Looperlative implements simple "tape-delay" style stretching -- where both loop time and pitch shift are tied together -- like that found on devices such as the DL-4. It won't do independent time domain or independent pitch domain manipulation like you get on the Repeater. Although you're not stuck with only half-speed or double-speed (like many loopers) since you can use controller/pedal data with the LP-1 to access all the "in-between steps". For most purposes this is fine, but there is a workaround if you have to have Repeater-style functionality. I use an external pitch shifting unit attached directly to one of the sets of aux outs for such effects. Obviously, for pitch shift all I need to do is route the signal to the pitch shifter. For time stretch, I'll use the LP-1's pitch/time shifting, then use the external pitch shifter to re-align the loop back to its original pitch. With this technique, only the time domain gets messed with. It's fairly simple with a good MIDI pedal and a little time spent programming (although you do need to budget for another external box to do the pitch shift). --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... later"