Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig

["e t e r o g e n e o" <info@eterogeneo.com>]

Kris,
enjoyed listening to it.
....Playing with your laptop driving you on unknown paths sounds really 
experimental and i think you're having a lot of fun playing with it
A question: how does it work on your set-up the "feedback" control for 
thelooped stuff ? Does it change everytime you trigger the looping 
function 
?
Nice, really nice.

Fabio
www.eterogeneo.com
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig


> This is a clip of just some of my stream of consciousness playing today, 
> which demonstrates the new random functionality of my max/msp system. 
> Basically, there are three things going on here, aside from my playing 
>and 
> not touching any pedal or the computer the whole time. The three highest 
> notes of my guitar trigger random looping (on/off), random effects 
> (on/off), and random parameter changes of the random effects (on/off). 
> Most of the time I am intentionally playing one of those three high 
>notes 
> to trigger the functionality, after which I let the randomness take 
>over. 
> Other times, if I play a harmonic that is of one of those high notes, it 
> triggers the functionality without my permission, which is sort of cool 
>as 
> well.  Having to manually trigger the functionality gets sort of old 
>after 
> a while, plus you have to hear those same three annoying high notes. So, 
>I 
> will just randomize the guitar frequency selection of those three 
> functions. Or, I just may as well make those three functions randomly 
>turn 
> on and off, regardless of guitar note choice. The output probably won't 
>be 
> much different.
>
> All in all, it is a lot of fun to play with the system. I'm never quite 
> certain what my computer is going to throw at me that I will have to 
>react 
> to.  In one passage, it randomly selected a filter effect, and it was 
>very 
> intense. I had to react by playing softly.
>
> There are all sorts of possibilities exploring here.
>
> http://www.box.net/shared/fx3p5m74kg (download/play)
> http://www.box.net/shared/static/fx3p5m74kg.mp3 (direct mp3)
>
> Kris
>
>
>
>>> Well, I finally did it.  In my quest to selfishly spend more time with 
>>> my instrument (guitar), more time actually playing, and less time 
>>> fiddling with and staring at the damn computer while playing (which 
>>> looks absolutely ridiculous in my opinion), I figured out how to have 
>my 
>>> cake and eat it too. I just finished my revised max/msp 
>looping/effects 
>>> system. I was very inspired by the Boise Experimental Music Festival, 
>>> after playing a set before Jeff Kaiser and Andrew Pask (of Cycling 74) 
>>> the first night, and a workshop that Jeff did on the many approaches 
>to 
>>> using the computer for live performance.  Andrew is actually using a 
>>> totally random based max/msp system so he just plays his sax and let's 
>>> the computer do everything for him.
>>>
>>> Long story short, my rig is totally automated now, using a series of 
>>> random algorithms to control both my max/msp Kaiser Looper and 
>functions 
>>> (everything from my scripts to basic functions like reverse halfspeed, 
>>> doublespeed, random speed, random buffer, random pan, etc), and all my 
>>> max/msp effect patches and parameters (including Reaktor as a VST), I 
>>> now turn my computer on and play. No MIDI footpedals. No expression 
>>> pedals. I just plug into my Fireface 400, activate my system, and let 
>>> the wonderful world of randomness take over. So liberating! I don't 
>even 
>>> need to have my computer screen open.  It's like playing with another 
>>> person whose job is to process my sound (like what Evan Parker has 
>done 
>>> with others), because I have no idea what sort of looping, effects, or 
>>> parameters changes are going to occur. I'm really liking this.  The 
>>> interesting thing is that I wasn't satisfied with the standard random 
>>> object in max/msp, so I found and used some max/msp abstractions 
>written 
>>> by Karlheinz Essl, which simulate Brownian movement in 
>micro-biological 
>>> systems. Very fascinating. And of course, I can deactivate the random 
>>> function at anytime, so that while I'm playing, if I hear the computer 
>>> do something really interesting that I like with the looper or 
>effects, 
>>> I turn the random functions off, and it will sort of freeze in the 
>last 
>>> state or frame of looping and effect parameters.
>>>
>>> More later...gotta pack for vacation now.
>>>
>>> Kris
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