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Kevin, This morning it just hit me that I forgot to mention in my post that you can use Plogue Bidule as a plug-in - both as VST and AU - in any host application. You never revealed what exactly you need Max/MSP for, but most things one would use it for is almost possible with Bidule. Whatever Max-like patch you have built in Bidule you can hit the "Save" button and save the complete session as a patch that can later be opened from inside the Bidule (AU and VST, Window and OS X) plug-in inside any AU or VST host application. This morning I'm working on a Bidule plug-in session that will let me run Augustus Looper inside Logic and next in the pipe-line is to move over some of my Mobius stuff from Windows to Logic on the Mac (huge Bidule patches migrated as plug-ins). It's a wonderful new world! ;-)) Per On 7/7/08, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/7/08, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com> >wrote: > > > The only "hold up" is that I like to notate my music and max/msp >doesn't > > have notation. If it would run as a VST plugin, then I could manage >the > > Notation on the Cubase side and the processing on the MAX/MSP side. > > > > -- Kevin > > Before vesion 5 Max would let you export patches as VST plug-ins to > run inside any host application. The intention with Max is of course > to get this option back in the new version and I, for one, is looking > forward to this. So when they manage to get back on track with that > you may "run it as a VST plug-in". > > The type of hybrid between random generative music and improvisational > musicianship that Kris talks about is also my dream. I've been tasting > at a bit in the nineties when using a sampler plus midi guitar, but > since there were not truely random based software available to me back > then I still keep its fulfillment on my top list ;-) > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen