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---- Original Message ----- > Right now, I have feedback set to 100%. However, I have the random >looping > setup so that it doesn't create really long loops, so I don't get into >any > annoying repetition. I didn't say that right. Long doesn't equal annoying repetition. For some reason, I just set it up so that the loops are shorter, but I plan to change that today. The nice thing is that if I like a particular loop, I just play a note to freeze the looper. K You make a good point, though. I think I might try > doing is setting the feedback so that the loops decay rather quickly, >but > change my random functionality so that loop last longer. That would be > interesting. Thanks for bringing this up. I've been wanting to do away > with infinite feedback looping for some time, based on a comment that > Matthias Grob made last year. > > ...back to work. > Kris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> Kris, >> enjoyed listening to it. >> ....Playing with your laptop driving you on unknown paths sounds really >> experimental and i think you're having a lot of fun playing with it >> A question: how does it work on your set-up the "feedback" control for >> thelooped stuff ? Does it change everytime you trigger the looping >> function ? >> Nice, really nice. >> >> Fabio >> www.eterogeneo.com >> www.myspace.com/eterogeneo >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net> >> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:14 PM >> Subject: Re: My Revised MAX/MSP Looping/Effects Rig >> >> >>> This is a clip of just some of my stream of consciousness playing >today, >>> which demonstrates the new random functionality of my max/msp system. >>> Basically, there are three things going on here, aside from my playing >>> and not touching any pedal or the computer the whole time. The three >>> highest notes of my guitar trigger random looping (on/off), random >>> effects (on/off), and random parameter changes of the random effects >>> (on/off). Most of the time I am intentionally playing one of those >three >>> high notes to trigger the functionality, after which I let the >>> randomness take over. Other times, if I play a harmonic that is of one >>> of those high notes, it triggers the functionality without my >>> permission, which is sort of cool as well. Having to manually trigger >>> the functionality gets sort of old after a while, plus you have to >hear >>> those same three annoying high notes. So, I will just randomize the >>> guitar frequency selection of those three functions. Or, I just may as >>> well make those three functions randomly turn on and off, regardless >of >>> guitar note choice. The output probably won't be much different. >>> >>> All in all, it is a lot of fun to play with the system. I'm never >quite >>> certain what my computer is going to throw at me that I will have to >>> react to. In one passage, it randomly selected a filter effect, and >it >>> was very intense. I had to react by playing softly. >>> >>> There are all sorts of possibilities exploring here. >>> >>> http://www.box.net/shared/fx3p5m74kg (download/play) >>> http://www.box.net/shared/static/fx3p5m74kg.mp3 (direct mp3) >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> >>> >>>>> Well, I finally did it. In my quest to selfishly spend more time >with >>>>> my instrument (guitar), more time actually playing, and less time >>>>> fiddling with and staring at the damn computer while playing (which >>>>> looks absolutely ridiculous in my opinion), I figured out how to >have >>>>> my cake and eat it too. I just finished my revised max/msp >>>>> looping/effects system. I was very inspired by the Boise >Experimental >>>>> Music Festival, after playing a set before Jeff Kaiser and Andrew >Pask >>>>> (of Cycling 74) the first night, and a workshop that Jeff did on the >>>>> many approaches to using the computer for live performance. Andrew >is >>>>> actually using a totally random based max/msp system so he just >plays >>>>> his sax and let's the computer do everything for him. >>>>> >>>>> Long story short, my rig is totally automated now, using a series of >>>>> random algorithms to control both my max/msp Kaiser Looper and >>>>> functions (everything from my scripts to basic functions like >reverse >>>>> halfspeed, doublespeed, random speed, random buffer, random pan, >etc), >>>>> and all my max/msp effect patches and parameters (including Reaktor >as >>>>> a VST), I now turn my computer on and play. No MIDI footpedals. No >>>>> expression pedals. I just plug into my Fireface 400, activate my >>>>> system, and let the wonderful world of randomness take over. So >>>>> liberating! I don't even need to have my computer screen open. It's >>>>> like playing with another person whose job is to process my sound >>>>> (like what Evan Parker has done with others), because I have no idea >>>>> what sort of looping, effects, or parameters changes are going to >>>>> occur. I'm really liking this. The interesting thing is that I >wasn't >>>>> satisfied with the standard random object in max/msp, so I found and >>>>> used some max/msp abstractions written by Karlheinz Essl, which >>>>> simulate Brownian movement in micro-biological systems. Very >>>>> fascinating. And of course, I can deactivate the random function at >>>>> anytime, so that while I'm playing, if I hear the computer do >>>>> something really interesting that I like with the looper or effects, >I >>>>> turn the random functions off, and it will sort of freeze in the >last >>>>> state or frame of looping and effect parameters. >>>>> >>>>> More later...gotta pack for vacation now. >>>>> >>>>> Kris >>>> >>> >>> >> >