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Now that i finally got the driver issue with mobius out if the way i am having a similar problem; with the MME drivers mobius had latency when i triggered it with the fcb1010,now that is working with ASIO(which by the way it was a matter of assigning correcly the ports of my RME fireface)it responds nice and fast but when i record a loop and end it,playback starts faster or ahead of time which can throw me off,same when i do overdubing! anybody having this problem?compared to the EDP is there an difference in accuracy response? would i just have to adapt to this and live with it,or is it a setup problem? Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 9/4/08, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > From: andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> > Subject: Re: New Member - was Buying Advice, now That First Loop > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 12:53 AM > Or alternatively:- > > The most accurate and reliable method to create that first > loop is > to tap at the beginning of the loop, and then tap at the > end. > By using the same method to start the loop as to end it, > there's > a slight (but significant) advantage in that any timing > discrepancies > between the tapping and the playing will cancel out. > (e.g. if you tap slighty early both times, you still get an > accurate loop length). > Any method that uses 2 different actions to start and end > the loop is likely > to mess with accurate timing. > > While it's often recommended to play a rhythm part > through a couple of times > before recording it this does not give any advantage, you > still have to > learn to co-ordinate yourself ,you don't learn any of > the looping > skills you'd need for more complex arrangements and it > doesn't > sound/look as cool. > > The tap-play-tap method may seem a bit hard at first, but > it's actually not > at all hard to learn, I've seen people "get > it" in about 5 mins of trying. > (just practise a short rhythm loop till it works). > > Respect to Dave for describing a couple of other > techniques. > > I'd also say that it's better to turn off the > pre-set tempo on the looper, > and just tap in the loop. > (unless you need to sync up for some reason} > > andy butler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave Gallaher wrote: > > I assume the Boss Loop Station you have is like mine, > and therefore has the > > Autostart setting available. This will reduce 50% of > your loop error > > potential right off the bat if you are starting from > silence. Select > > Autostart; set the level to the point where a > well-played note (but not an > > accidental click or handling noise) will begin the > loop. Then all you have > > to do is end on time, and it's much easier to hit > the '1' following several > > measures of playing than it is to start dead on. > > > > Another technique: if you are going to lay a rhythm > guitar pattern down as > > the bed, play it a couple times before hitting the > loop. If you have any > > discrepancy in your tempo between your starting point > and the end of the > > phrase, you can usually be rid of it after a go-round > or two. Using > > autostart, simply play the guitar pattern, stop for a > four beat rest while > > stepping on the record pedal, then begin on > '1'. > > > > I have no experience recording with included clicks > and drum rhythms, so > > this advice may be useless to you if this is your > mode. > > > > dave > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: New Member - Buying Advice and Opinions > Sought > > > > Thank you all for your advice. I really appreciated > it. > > > > I had it down to the following three -- > > > > A) Boomerang with 2-channel Mixer -- not feasible, as > the footprint and > > extra setup for a mixer would detract from what I need > it to do in the way I > > need it to work (get up on stage, set up, go quickly) > > > > B) Digitech JamMan - looked great, but realistically > when live could only > > record one phrase at a time (otherwise would have to > stop and save) > > > > C) Boss Loop Station - expensive and finicky, with a > large number of > > complaints registered online, and even a known > "glitch" that bothers some > > people regarding a playback gap. > > > > In the end, I went with the Boss Loop Station, due > mostly to the links > > provided by members here, and their comments. In the > scant hour I've spent > > messing with it, I've already been able to do two > tunes that I couldn't do > > solo (tough to do a 3-part harmony/bodhran song by > yourself -- without a > > looping station, that is). > > > > Now to practice! > > > > (yegods, laying down that first track so it repeats > nicely, in a timely > > regular fashion, is an ART! ... It took me awhile to > figure out that the > > tempo light switched red on the FIRST beat ... My > brain keeps insisting that > > red must be on the FOURTH beat for some reason?!) > > > > If anybody wishes to pass me the links/references on > "looping for newbies -- > > how to lay an initial decent rhythm track in under 20 > minutes!" then feel > > free to e-mail me privately (so as not to spam the > list with my newbie > > stuff). > > > > Thank you all again for the advice. I appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > >