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Actually after some thinking (and Halloween, we had 350 kids
come to the door last night!), it comes to me that something similar to this is
what the WinAmp player originally supported with Shoutcast... You'd run the app
on the same machine you used WinAmp to listen to it. The Shoutcast
'server' of sorts ran itself in an encapsulated process, and presented itself as
an active stream. Wasn't there a way to take ports like //linein as input
as well? I haven't fiddled with it in a while.
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Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:01
PM
Subject: Re: Video Visualization in
Windows Media Player activated by audio
Per,
*GRIN ... thanks!
"IN THEORY" (*grin), you
should be able to do exactly as you describe, i.e., run Nicecast on a machine,
run iTunes on the same machine and point it to the Nicecast local host/local
server at IP 127.0.0. There is a possibility of
a performance hit, but then I haven't tried this simply because I actually had
the (relative) luxury of having a separate machine to run the software on ...
as soon as the project I am running in the background right now is finished I
will try this and see how well it works. Well, all of that and the fact that
if I have things running on separate machines I can actually test things more
easily ... if that makes sense to you!
Likewise, your first scenario of
using two machines with an ethernet cable should also work (BUT you MUST use a
proper ethernet cable, an ethernet crossover cable, to get that to work
properly. As you describe it, it would probably be better to a.) have each
machine have a unique IP address, rather than trying to point iTunes to the
"local host IP" of 127.0.0 since iTunes would look for that on the machine in
which it was running, rather than the one running Nicecast and b.) have them
on the same subnet ... basically, you could create a "sub-net" with unique IP
addresses such as 10.0.0.1, etc., and point to
them to each other that way). We have five dedicated IP addresses, two of
which are dedicated to my production machine (G5) and my streaming server
(G4); the wife and I use the subneted wireless network for our laptops, so
that I do have 2 more IP addresses to spare, should I ever need (read=afford
the computers!) to use them.
To exand on what Per and I are gettng at:
There are clearly a number of tools and approaches that can be used to do
this. Some of them may work better if you can parse out the "heavy lifting" on
separate machines, but the tools are there and we should be sharing our
experiences by describing what we use and how its set up to get the effects.
The Vimeo site that Todd set up is certainly a good place to share the outputs
...
Later!
Dennis
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Dennis Moser < sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
wrote: > Okay ... some data points, rather than
speculation: > > 1. iTunes can handle live audio feeds. I do
this on a regular basis whenever > I perform in Second Life. Granted,
I am using two computers (well, actually > three if you count the one
I am using to run my Second Life client, but for > purposes of this
discussion you COULD do it with one). Probably the most > straight
forward way of doing this is to use iTunes and a NiceCast. >
NiceCast would be your "broadcast server" that would provide a stream
that > iTunes would recoginze as a "radio" station. Nicecast can be
configured to > just be a "local host" ( 127.0.0.0) server, so you may need to do some >
fiddling in telling iTunes how to find it. I'm fortunate enough to have
an > old, heavily upgraded G4 Mac that I use as a separate
server.
That's a brilliant idea! Thank you
for posting such valuable
information. Do you think it would be possible
to run the NiceCast
server on the audio looping MacBook and cable an
ethernet line into a
PowerBook that runs iTunes + the Magnetosphere
visualiser?
But if it is possible I would prefer to run the NIceCast
server on the
same machine that runs the iTuens vis. That would mean
iTunes has to
connect to an "internet radio" link that is local, on the
same
machine. I wonder if that can be done? (will read up on NiceCast in
a
minute...)
I think Magnetosphere (iTunes 8) may look interesting
if someone is
VJ'ing it by pressing the F key now and then to put it into
freeze
mode during certain algorithms.
Another alternative would
be to use a visualizing Windows machine and
buy a license for the Windows
application Audio Visualisaton
Screensaver. It comes bundled with all
those Sonique visual plug-ins
that I think are a bit cooler in some
aspects (Jazz, Acidpunk, Cosmic
Belt and some more). I must say, I was
very happy this morning to find
that at least someone did realize in time
(before the buy-out and
turn-down) the value of Sonique 1.96. The URL to
download is
http://www.3delite.hu/Audio%20Visualisation%20Screen%20Saver/index.html
and
the USD 25 license is picked up at
http://www.shareit.com/programs.html?productid=300186562.
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