Although this doesn’t use audio as a trigger for visualization,
the Electric Sheep project is really very cool.
http://www.electricsheep.org/index.cgi?&menu=about
you can see a short documentary about it here http://blip.tv/file/1233576
Tony
From: SP Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 8:24 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by
audio
Actually after some thinking
(and Halloween, we had 350 kids come to the door last night!), it comes to me
that something similar to this is what the WinAmp player originally supported
with Shoutcast... You'd run the app on the same machine you used WinAmp to
listen to it. The Shoutcast 'server' of sorts ran itself in an
encapsulated process, and presented itself as an active stream. Wasn't
there a way to take ports like //linein as input as well? I haven't
fiddled with it in a while.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: Video Visualization in Windows
Media Player activated by audio
Per,
*GRIN ... thanks!
"IN THEORY" (*grin), you should be able to do exactly as you
describe, i.e., run Nicecast on a machine, run iTunes on the same machine and
point it to the Nicecast local host/local server at IP 127.0.0.
There is a possibility of a performance hit, but then I haven't tried this
simply because I actually had the (relative) luxury of having a separate
machine to run the software on ... as soon as the project I am running in the
background right now is finished I will try this and see how well it works.
Well, all of that and the fact that if I have things running on separate
machines I can actually test things more easily ... if that makes sense to you!
Likewise, your first scenario of using two machines with an ethernet cable
should also work (BUT you MUST use a proper ethernet cable, an ethernet
crossover cable, to get that to work properly. As you describe it, it would
probably be better to a.) have each machine have a unique IP address, rather
than trying to point iTunes to the "local host IP" of 127.0.0 since
iTunes would look for that on the machine in which it was running, rather than
the one running Nicecast and b.) have them on the same subnet ... basically,
you could create a "sub-net" with unique IP addresses such as 10.0.0.1, etc., and point to them to each other that
way). We have five dedicated IP addresses, two of which are dedicated to my
production machine (G5) and my streaming server (G4); the wife and I use the
subneted wireless network for our laptops, so that I do have 2 more IP
addresses to spare, should I ever need (read=afford the computers!) to use
them.
To exand on what Per and I are gettng at: There are clearly a number of tools
and approaches that can be used to do this. Some of them may work better if you
can parse out the "heavy lifting" on separate machines, but the tools
are there and we should be sharing our experiences by describing what we use
and how its set up to get the effects. The Vimeo site that Todd set up is
certainly a good place to share the outputs ...
Later!
Dennis
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:22 AM,
Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay ... some data points, rather than speculation:
>
> 1. iTunes can handle live audio feeds. I do this on a regular basis
whenever
> I perform in Second Life. Granted, I am using two computers (well,
actually
> three if you count the one I am using to run my Second Life client, but
for
> purposes of this discussion you COULD do it with one). Probably the most
> straight forward way of doing this is to use iTunes and a NiceCast.
> NiceCast would be your "broadcast server" that would provide a
stream that
> iTunes would recoginze as a "radio" station. Nicecast can be
configured to
> just be a "local host" (127.0.0.0) server, so you may need to do some
> fiddling in telling iTunes how to find it. I'm fortunate enough to have an
> old, heavily upgraded G4 Mac that I use as a separate server.
Dennis,
That's a brilliant idea! Thank you for posting such valuable
information. Do you think it would be possible to run the NiceCast
server on the audio looping MacBook and cable an ethernet line into a
PowerBook that runs iTunes + the Magnetosphere visualiser?
But if it is possible I would prefer to run the NIceCast server on the
same machine that runs the iTuens vis. That would mean iTunes has to
connect to an "internet radio" link that is local, on the same
machine. I wonder if that can be done? (will read up on NiceCast in a
minute...)
I think Magnetosphere (iTunes 8) may look interesting if someone is
VJ'ing it by pressing the F key now and then to put it into freeze
mode during certain algorithms.
Another alternative would be to use a visualizing Windows machine and
buy a license for the Windows application Audio Visualisaton
Screensaver. It comes bundled with all those Sonique visual plug-ins
that I think are a bit cooler in some aspects (Jazz, Acidpunk, Cosmic
Belt and some more). I must say, I was very happy this morning to find
that at least someone did realize in time (before the buy-out and
turn-down) the value of Sonique 1.96. The URL to download is
http://www.3delite.hu/Audio%20Visualisation%20Screen%20Saver/index.html
and the USD 25 license is picked up at
http://www.shareit.com/programs.html?productid=300186562.
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