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----- Original Message ----- From: "michael noble" <looplog@gmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:47 AM Subject: Re: a moronic question > Perhaps it depends if you needing a technical/semantic distinction or > a distinction in common usage. Without wanting to play devil's > advocate, but isn't ALL sampling a form of synthetic reproduction of > an original waveform? A recording is not reproduction if it was source-recorded as opposed to re-created or replicated. > The arguments above could be taken to imply > that photographs are 'the real thing' whilst paintings are merely > artistic approximations, when both are just differing forms of > synthetic production. A photograph is a static recording in single-frame. Paintings are indeed interpretations either from or filtered through the mind and hands/etc of the artist. > Similarly, wavetable synthesis, which I don't > claim to understand in technical detail, involves synthesis based on > sampling. It is also not difficult to conceive of recombinant > sampling techniques that will generate wholly new sounds based on > sample mixing at anywhere from the sample level of microsound to the > sonic event level. In thus respect, a dualism as stated is possibly > too simplistic. Nope. A recording is not synthesis unless that which was recorded was originally synthesized itself. > but, yes, for the purposes of common usage, sampling involves the use > of "real" sounds while synthesis, synthetic ones ;) Basically, though I'm sure there are lots of people who use sampling that keep up a pretense of 'creating' the sounds per se, but that's the non-synthesized source of several firefights on LD since its inception. :) > -looplog > > On 11/30/08, SP Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote: >> From: "Bruce Gilman" <cuica@interworld.net> >>> >>> I have a question for composers or performers who use samples. >>> >>> Sorry to wave my ignorance. Please indulge the ignorant. >>> >>> >>> If you write or play with samples, let's say string samples, are you >>> using synthesized sounds? >>> >>> >>> Again my apologies for interrupting, >>> B.G. >> >> Hi Bruce, >> >> The source of the sample would determine whether the sound being used is >> synthesized or not, I'd guess. I never found a way to satisfactorily >> replicate Tablas, for instance. When I got Fruity Loops (now FLStudio) >> and >> a sample-set of Tabla sounds I could 'do' as such without having to >> resort >> to synth programming-fiddling. Moreover if one uses FLStudio one is >> using >> non-synthesized samples in many cases. I lean towards the use of >'real' >> but >> then I'm a grumpy old fart to some. >> >> SP Goodman >> * >> http://www.youtube.com/spgoodman >> http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman >> >> >> > > > -- > networking practice for sound environments :: >http://nowhere.iamnobody.net > > > > >