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In the time ca. "SAUBER! - Das Geheimnis der Geschwindigkeit" (2001) 'til "Neinnein auf dem kleinen Weg" (2004), I used a (bass) guitar (Tune Gap 6) tuned a-e-b-f#-d-a (the upper a being below a normal guitar's b string). This basically is a guitar tuning with inverted intervals (fifths instead of fours and minor 6th instead of major 3rd), and expands the range of the instrument by one octave. I did a similair inverted lute tuning on my B2AF (bass paddle fretless), tuning it d-a-f-c. A word of caution, though: on instruments with a very acoustically conductive body/neck (like it is the case with the Tune), the stronger coupling with 5th compared to 4ths leads to stronger resonances between the strings - a workaround is the use of per-string processing. As for bass guitar tunings with looping content, be sure to check out http://www.manthing.com/tunings.htm Rainer