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Hey Bill, thanx buddy but man i am already getting a bit nervous about this...;-) maybe i should just let him accompany the loops...after all this guy is an octopus he has a little percussion kit where he does 3 or four things at a time,clave with his foot,cowbell with the other,guiro and the whole conga pattern with one hand, i think once he would loop that he would just sit there wondering what else he could add;-)) i also recently brought him a batá stand from the states so he can do all of the bata cuban santeria rhythms himself,we used to get together 3 of us and everybody would do his part but now hes gettin the shit down himself like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZuemMupzgo cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sat, 1/31/09, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote: > From: William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> > Subject: Re: ways to loop as duo > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 1:02 PM > Though I can't give you any feedback on your looping > tools now that you're a > MoBo software guy, I can tell you what I know works. > > Things to consider, are you wanting to switch the > master/slave sync > relationship? Will you be the constant clock source? If > it's the former I > suggest getting together before the gig, hooking it up, and > seeing if it can > work smoothly, which would allow greater performance > flexibility, as either > person can start the first loop. Tech rehearsals always > seem to mean less > perspiration come gig time. > > If you are acting as the master only, Per's idea > sounds the most logical > but would require an additional midi pedal and perhaps a > small midi merge > box, as well as the time it takes for the script writing. > I've had good luck > looping percussionists, but it takes some practice to get > smooth at it if > you are trying to achieve precise groove loops. If you have > a drum machine, > try running it through your looper, un-synced and work on > your punch in > punch out timing, creating drum loops. The drum machine > don't lie, and it's > a good way to get familiar with what ever latency is > inherent in your > looping rig, not to mention your rhythmic acuity. If your > band mate is new > to looping, you might avoid train wrecks by looping him, > particularly if you > have no time to get together. This does however give you > more things to > multi task, and if you ask me we could all stand to do a > little less multi > tasking. Last night as I was leaving Trader Joes with the > much needed half > in half, I nearly was run over by a guy on roller skates, > who was weaving, > talking on a cell phone and with the other hand holding a > potted plant, and > I believe under the influence, hear nearly skated himself > through a plate > glass window trying to avoid me. Now that is way too much > multi > tasking....;-) > > I've only had experience clocking hardware loops, The > looperlative does this > really well, without the need for a midi patch bay, If each > person was using > a midi foot controller that had thru capability. Most good > ones from the > FCB1010 on up do. Each person needs to be on a different > midi channel, and > each person has to have a preset for sync record/overdub > for the master, and > midi sync record/overdub for the slave. > > Bill