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RAINER wrote: "I think this group may be ever increasing, simply because even cheap cell phones have reached a level where they already take acceptable videos, so: Any recommendations for software solutions (plugins...) which completely whack up your hi-quality videos so they might be used with Rick's project?"* * Actually, Rainer, I'm specifically NOT interested in software that distresses higher quality video to make it look like lower quality video and would request that, in the spirit of this project that people not try to send them in. I really want this oriented towards the first generation of video cameras, webams, cell phones with low fidelity video capacity. Low fi and crappy is the name of the game. The purpose of this is that the lower fidelity creates all kinds of choices which I find aesthetically interesting. The specific limitations will inform the results I believe. That Aiptek camera that they are clearing out is perfect for this. I'm sure there must also be a plethora of really cheap older cell phones for sale on E-bay as well, though I haven't looked. yours, respectfully, Rick