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Rick, after using an RME card for a long time with good results I moved to a cheap Presonus box for my Mac Mini a couple of years ago. For my latest solo projects I re-evaluated my recording gear and sadly found that Apogee simply blew away the Presonus and even RME and Motu. In the end I found a used MiniMe with the USB output for half the street price for a new one so I didn't feel so bad after all. Of course recording fingerpicked solo acoustic guitar is quite a task and sonic differences are diminishing a little bit when you are working on louder, densely layered, thicker sounding music. Still I was shocked at how noisy the Presonus was, how dull and muffled the Motu sounded and that even the famed Fireface 400 despite it's geat routing capabilities paled soundwise in direct comparison to the Apogee. And side by side comparison is the way to go here. Supposedly there are no big differences in the A/D conversion chips any more these days so the difference must lie in the analog path to the converters. That makes sense in a way since e.g. discrete analog mic pres generally do sound superior to IC-based designs. I have a couple of old Telefunken V676's here that do sound nicer than the TLA Ivory channel strips I had and also the bulidt-in mic pre's of the Apogee. And then there are those old tube Telefunkens they used to use at Abbey Road studios.... Anyway, I'm curious to hear what you guys have found.