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Andreas are u talking about this one? http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/mini-dac.php?section=artists&show=Mini-Series www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Andreas Willers <a.willers@arcor.de> wrote: > From: Andreas Willers <a.willers@arcor.de> > Subject: Re: OT Best Quality Sound Card - Least Amount of Mone > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 8:02 PM > Rick, > > after using an RME card for a long time with good results I > moved to a cheap Presonus box for my Mac Mini a couple of > years ago. For my latest solo projects I re-evaluated my > recording gear and sadly found that Apogee simply blew away > the Presonus and even RME and Motu. In the end I found a > used MiniMe with the USB output for half the street price > for a new one so I didn't feel so bad after all. > > Of course recording fingerpicked solo acoustic guitar is > quite a task and sonic differences are diminishing a little > bit when you are working on louder, densely layered, thicker > sounding music. Still I was shocked at how noisy the > Presonus was, how dull and muffled the Motu sounded and that > even the famed Fireface 400 despite it's geat routing > capabilities paled soundwise in direct comparison to the > Apogee. And side by side comparison is the way to go here. > > Supposedly there are no big differences in the A/D > conversion chips any more these days so the difference must > lie in the analog path to the converters. That makes sense > in a way since e.g. discrete analog mic pres generally do > sound superior to IC-based designs. I have a couple of old > Telefunken V676's here that do sound nicer than the TLA > Ivory channel strips I had and also the bulidt-in mic > pre's of the Apogee. And then there are those old tube > Telefunkens they used to use at Abbey Road studios.... > > Anyway, I'm curious to hear what you guys have found.