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I don't know jack about this, but is it necessary to have the MIDI equipment? If it's just to be able to control functions remotely, I'd call that a secondary need. Couldn't one just buy one of the cheap M-Audio interfaces (i.e., Fast Track) for less than $100, plug a guitar or mic in, and use the mouse or keyboard to control the looping functions in Mobius? Manual control isn't so bad, I've always used my loopers on a tabletop anyway. (I do think hardware is an easier/more understandable way to get started, though...). Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > However, there is still the fact that a computer solution does not > come "ready to use out of the box". You need to setup various things, > and actually using it for more than a first "I use my laptop > microphone and push buttons onscreen with my mouse" test run of e.g. > Mobius requires you to get a decent audio interface (or at the least > adapter cables), a MIDI interface and a MIDI controller - all of which > sum up to more than a cheap hardware looper.