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sooooo here is another contender with dual switches: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RCKLh09zVI&feature=PlayList&p=BF6F02B1D094378C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3 www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 3/17/09, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 9:05 PM > The SOS of the DD20 is really a bare bones looper. You > press the > pedal to record your first loop, press it again to close it > and start > it repeating. Press the pedal again and you record as long > as you > hold it down. No feedback control or undo so its really a > one way > kind of thing-forward to more. I think the delay modes are > probably > more suited to looping though they have been a bit tricky > for me to > get comfortable with. The simultaneous delays are pretty > great in > that you can record a phrase with say 90% feedback and move > to the > next delay bank. The original loop will repeat and slowly > decay > untouched by what you're now playing as that is being > captured in the > second delay bank. If you move forward once more though it > terminates > the first delay so you kind of need to time your feedback > so you can > move on without abruptly cutting off the delay (unless > that's what you > want). Of course once you advance to the next delay bank > you're stuck > with whatever settings you had before you moved on, > there's no going > backwards to change the settings. You can also use the > on/off pedal > to open and close a loop with the feedback set to 100% and > mimic the > SOS only with the option of bending down and adjusting the > feedback to > let the loop decay. > > You can also mess with the loop length by tapping a new > tempo once > you've got something going and that can get kind of > interesting. > > I don't use it as much as I probably should but it has > a lot of > potential. For simple looping I really prefer the DL4 but > I can see > how if you learned the DD20 first if could really be > one's primary > looper. > > Kevin > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:39 AM, andy butler > <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > hi Kevin, > > yep, I'm a Rolandophobe ;-) > > > > ...but now I remember Ted Killians killer dd20 moves. > > > > Only £110 + £psu inUK. > > > > At $219 + $psu in the US > > > > From what I heard on this list, the SOS mode > wasn't up to much, > > but the manual *suggests* it's possible to > > > > 1) tap in a loop > > 2) overdub > > 3) quickly erase loop and start another > > > > So in theory, it's a good alternative. > > > > Is there some hidden drawback to the SOS? > > (i kind of remember there was, and that LDers prized > it for allowing 2 > > simultaneous delays) > > > > > > andy > > > > Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > >> > >> You're missing the Boss DD20 which is also > more delay than looper but > >> has sound on sound and 23 seconds of delay with > feedback control. > >> $219 in the US. > >> > >> Kevin > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Rick Walker > <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Okay, we are nearing a good list, here. > >>> It would be great if someone would complete > this list with prices > >>> from both Southern and Northern Europe (I say > this because prices > >>> obviously > >>> very greatly from the US to the UK alone) > >>> > >>> I purposefully didn't included pedals that > are no longer in production > >>> (but we could with their salient going > prices-anyone feel like doing that > >>> research?) > >>> but I did include used laptop, reel to reel > and cassette solutions. > >>> > >>> What are we missing anything? > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body > and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause > of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE > 3/01/09