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In booking my own tours, I've taken advantage both of personal contacts as well as raw lists of venues, and I've found both to be valuable. In fact I find that the venues often are the route to the people. Just the past few weeks, in Denver and Chicago among other cities, emailing a venue prompted them to suggest either other venues or like-minded peeps that are going to be great connections. And I've also found some really enthusiastic people just among the bookers, who hooked me up with a show and are interested in the music besides. The more possible connections the better, be they individuals or actual venues. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Instead, I think it might be a more accurate list to mention the > people who > seem the most committed to this notion of helping live looping artists to > get a gig when they are on tour.