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Re: Question about OSX audio routing



... so then it's useless for me, since i'd wanted to capture the
creative fx performance while improvising, and had to leave the
soundhacks, smatelectronix, etc... that i usually control with the
fcb1010 in the studio.

as you told me some time ago, 24 bits seems the way to go.

anyhow, does make sense to put at the end of each track channel an
instance of a dithering plugin while recording
ableton->soundflower->logic? would this consume lots of CPU power for,
let's say, 8 stereo tracks at once?

2009/5/15, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:
> Raul,
>
> Why aren't you combining Live and Logic with ReWire? That way you
> won't have to export or import any files at all and you get a more
> creative system with both Applications running together. Start Logic
> first then Live, so it will hook up as the ReWire slave to Logic,
> being the ReWire master. Then create as many ReWire channels you need
> in Logic's mixer to pipe in the channels from Live. The only drawback
> here is that no third-party plug-ins can be used in Live when in
> ReWire mode (yes, that sucks - many have complained but the Abes
> haven't been able to fix that yet).
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.perboysen.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> 
>wrote:
>> i try to make the final mixes on logic, but since logic can't import
>> 32 bits files... i'd go for the 24 bits format in live, although as
>> i'm using lots of ableton's fx (and that's where 32 bits makes sense),
>> if i render 24 bits files, then i need to dither from 32 to 24 prior
>> to importing the files into logic (or i should?).
>>
>> i'd like to avoid dithering (even 32 bits to 24 bits, which is
>> obviously harmless than 24 to 16 bits) before going into logic.
>>
>> i think there's a direct relation between streamed chunks and rendered
>> files, per.
>>
>> 2009/5/15, Os <os@collective.co.uk>:
>>> why are you using soundflower for that? Live is quite capable of
>>> recording its own output as you play.
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> os.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/5/15 Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>:
>>>> ... not much related but i need to know.
>>>>
>>>> if i try to capture through soundflower, and providing that
>>>> soundflower always sends 32bits streams, my ableton's impro's into
>>>> logic (under leopard) ... does this implies that logic will truncate
>>>> from 32 to 24 bits, since logic can't open 32 bits files? ... i know
>>>> logic operates with 32 bits internally, but what about recording from
>>>> soundflower? is ableton really sending 32 bits in realtime? any
>>>> workaround per?
>>>>
>>>> 2009/5/15, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:
>>>>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:
>>>>>> But what if you run both Mainstage and Bidule as host? Suppose I 
>sent
>>>>>> Mainstage to output 3/4 of the
>>>>>> Motu and I add a duplex audio device to Bidule. I can now use the
>>>>>> Mainstage output in Bidule, add effects etc
>>>>>> and route it to output 3/4 again. This works, but I'm wondering if
>>>>>> Bidule
>>>>>> output 3/4 are mixed into and thus
>>>>>> added to the original output 3/4 of Mainstage yes or no.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you target the same Motu output from two parallel applications -
>>>>> like here Mainstage and Bidule - these two streams will of course be
>>>>> summed at that Motu output. It doesn't matter if you think about your
>>>>> way as "Bidule being mixed into Mainstage" or the other way around. 
>It
>>>>> is simply two audio streams getting summed in the Motu device (and
>>>>> that's OS X code at work, since OS X runs the CoreAudio driver for 
>the
>>>>> Motu box).
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or does Bidule operate at a lower level so Mainstage and Bidule work
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> series?
>>>>>
>>>>> No. Not unless you set it up like that with some sort of hack.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Btw: could JackOSX add anything extra for a live looping situation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not in my opinion. The reason is that any live looping situation is
>>>>> highly timing dependent, being a real-time activity, and the latency
>>>>> of both Jack and SoundFlower (Cycling74) induce a latency that does
>>>>> vary depending on what else is happening on the computer. There's no
>>>>> way of compensating for varying latency.
>>>>>
>>>>> For non timing critical routing Jack and SoundFlower works fine
>>>>> though. I use SoundFlower to record mp3 files of phone conferences 
>and
>>>>> any sort of audio streaming like iTunes, Spotify etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Per
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
>>>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> os@collective.co.uk
>>> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/
>>> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
>>
>>
>
>


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