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seems to have a basic but nice looper as well with record,play,play once ,overdub and reverse not bad but ouch the price hurts... www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> schrieb am Di, 30.6.2009: > Von: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> > Betreff: Re: MY NEW TOY > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009, 11:29 > Word on the street is that if you > want *the best* then the Axe-FX is > the route to go: > > http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html > > I have no experience with them but the demos sound great: > (even with > youtube compression) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubu8A_wmmNI&fmt=18 > > The cost seems prohibitive to me, but if you've got the > cash and want > the best maybe it's worth it. I found my Vox Tonelab/VF-1 > combo to be > good enough for me, and Amplitube to be even better. One > thing that > sold me on the software route is that if I want to do > something that's > not possible in a hardware set up without a bunch of > re-routing I can > do it effortlessly and then call it up as a preset. > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jeff Duke<jeff_d@embarqmail.com> > wrote: > > thanks Andy, > > > > but you did answer it really. It's funny but i > recently compiled alot of my > > tunes for release on Bandcamp. I realized that the > best (meaning my > > favorite) sounds were all direct into the board > recordings. i have used > > whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whatever fx box > I was using at the > > time. All the newer stuff was done while wearing > headphones in a quiet > > apartment. > > I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into > amp modelers > > (currently Digitech RP 250 and or Korg AX 3000G) > into modfx/delay/reverb > > into loopers into sometimes more mangle fx into mixer. > Not the best way but > > there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs of the > multi fx boxes. i really > > want a proper mixer so that i can feed more of > everything into everything > > else sort of :) > > All that said i still believe that a good real amp > cranked up sounds better. > > I just can't do that anymore in real life. I guess it > come down to good tone > > being subjective. I am always looking for "the" sound. > hmmm, maybe this? > > http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/DBS/ > > > > And your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"! > > > > First cup 'o coffee wearing off, gotta go get more! > > > > best, > > > > Jeff > > > > > > Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck > > > > > > http://jeffduke.org/ > > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ > > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents > > http://www.justin.tv/loopslab > > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke > > http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke > > http://virb.com/jeffduke > > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 > > http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" > <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> > > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:15 AM > > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY > > > > > >> Jeff Duke wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, > surely it would be neater to > >>>> put one amp sim between guitar and fx. > >>> > >>> What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim > Andy? > >>> > >>> Jeff > >>> > >> > >> Oh, I'm probably the worst person to ask about amp > sims ;-) > >> Ask Bill Walker. > >> > >> I only really started playing electric guitar when > I started looping, > >> and while I played bass through a nice valve setup > for years I eventually > >> found that it just wouldn't reproduce the sort of > playing I put into it. > >> (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lot going at > once, but wasn't > >> willing to reduce the low frequency content of the > sound.) > >> > >> Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything, and don't > possess a decent amp > >> sim. > >> > >> Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger > Lo-pass to mellow > >> out the fuzzy tones from my ADA MP1 valve pre. > >> > >> However, the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound > ok to me, and it seems > >> also to the audience. Only knowledgeable > guitarists have sometimes > >> to worried that I have a flat battery somewhere > ;-) > >> > >> Generally, I reckon that for a looping device, a > clean full range sound is > >> preferable > >> so that the layers can remain distinct in the > mix. > >> > >> Hence I would always put an amp sim before the > looper, rather than after. > >> Then it would be possible to build up a mix using > different amp tones. > >> > >> My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa > speakers by putting a > >> stereo > >> amp sim (two SansAmps) just in front of them. > >> It's a different approach...and I don't doubt he'd > make it work. > >> > >> I'd say 'hope that helps', only as I didn't > >> answer the question...... :-) > >> > >> andy > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >