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No kidding! However when I think of the fact that my Vox/VF-1 was about half that price (and the VF-1 was used when I got it) and I guess if you consider the IK Multimedia STOMP I/O is $1000 (+$229 for Fender) and you still need a computer to run it, it sounds a bit less crazy. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:35 PM, L.Angulo<labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote: > > seems to have a basic but nice looper as well with record,play,play once >,overdub and reverse not bad but ouch the price hurts... > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> schrieb am Di, 30.6.2009: > >> Von: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> >> Betreff: Re: MY NEW TOY >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Datum: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009, 11:29 >> Word on the street is that if you >> want *the best* then the Axe-FX is >> the route to go: >> >> http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html >> >> I have no experience with them but the demos sound great: >> (even with >> youtube compression) >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubu8A_wmmNI&fmt=18 >> >> The cost seems prohibitive to me, but if you've got the >> cash and want >> the best maybe it's worth it. I found my Vox Tonelab/VF-1 >> combo to be >> good enough for me, and Amplitube to be even better. One >> thing that >> sold me on the software route is that if I want to do >> something that's >> not possible in a hardware set up without a bunch of >> re-routing I can >> do it effortlessly and then call it up as a preset. >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jeff Duke<jeff_d@embarqmail.com> >> wrote: >> > thanks Andy, >> > >> > but you did answer it really. It's funny but i >> recently compiled alot of my >> > tunes for release on Bandcamp. I realized that the >> best (meaning my >> > favorite) sounds were all direct into the board >> recordings. i have used >> > whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whatever fx box >> I was using at the >> > time. All the newer stuff was done while wearing >> headphones in a quiet >> > apartment. >> > I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into >> amp modelers >> > (currently Digitech RP 250 and or Korg AX 3000G) >> into modfx/delay/reverb >> > into loopers into sometimes more mangle fx into mixer. >> Not the best way but >> > there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs of the >> multi fx boxes. i really >> > want a proper mixer so that i can feed more of >> everything into everything >> > else sort of :) >> > All that said i still believe that a good real amp >> cranked up sounds better. >> > I just can't do that anymore in real life. I guess it >> come down to good tone >> > being subjective. I am always looking for "the" sound. >> hmmm, maybe this? >> > http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/DBS/ >> > >> > And your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"! >> > >> > First cup 'o coffee wearing off, gotta go get more! >> > >> > best, >> > >> > Jeff >> > >> > >> > Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck >> > >> > >> > http://jeffduke.org/ >> > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace >> > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/ >> > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents >> > http://www.justin.tv/loopslab >> > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke >> > http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke >> > http://virb.com/jeffduke >> > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ >> > http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 >> > http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" >> <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> >> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:15 AM >> > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY >> > >> > >> >> Jeff Duke wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx, >> surely it would be neater to >> >>>> put one amp sim between guitar and fx. >> >>> >> >>> What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim >> Andy? >> >>> >> >>> Jeff >> >>> >> >> >> >> Oh, I'm probably the worst person to ask about amp >> sims ;-) >> >> Ask Bill Walker. >> >> >> >> I only really started playing electric guitar when >> I started looping, >> >> and while I played bass through a nice valve setup >> for years I eventually >> >> found that it just wouldn't reproduce the sort of >> playing I put into it. >> >> (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lot going at >> once, but wasn't >> >> willing to reduce the low frequency content of the >> sound.) >> >> >> >> Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything, and don't >> possess a decent amp >> >> sim. >> >> >> >> Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger >> Lo-pass to mellow >> >> out the fuzzy tones from my ADA MP1 valve pre. >> >> >> >> However, the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound >> ok to me, and it seems >> >> also to the audience. Only knowledgeable >> guitarists have sometimes >> >> to worried that I have a flat battery somewhere >> ;-) >> >> >> >> Generally, I reckon that for a looping device, a >> clean full range sound is >> >> preferable >> >> so that the layers can remain distinct in the >> mix. >> >> >> >> Hence I would always put an amp sim before the >> looper, rather than after. >> >> Then it would be possible to build up a mix using >> different amp tones. >> >> >> >> My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa >> speakers by putting a >> >> stereo >> >> amp sim (two SansAmps) just in front of them. >> >> It's a different approach...and I don't doubt he'd >> make it work. >> >> >> >> I'd say 'hope that helps', only as I didn't >> >> answer the question...... :-) >> >> >> >> andy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >