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Per said: > > .......how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius? > Not Mobius if you ask me. Interesting to hear that. I believe to get your point regarding staying in the timing scheme of a loop when doing rate shifts as opposed to a strict time base coming from a sequencer, but I found, on the other hand, using a pattern sequencer like Ableton Live (which I do use mainly as a VST host for, among other things, Mobius) does actually help if you want to stay in some sort of absolute time frame. In a way, this comes close to what Claude Voit used to do with the pattern sequencer of a Nord Modular G2 in combination with some EDPs. For the general concept, I quickly found that when controlling Mobius with a sequencer, I tend to turn off any quantization and only keep sync within Mobius (if and when applicable) but not between Mobius and the sequencer via VST Host or MIDI sync, instead assuring sync via retriggers sent from the sequencer. When using the simple forms of rate shift (e.g. going into halfspeed at the beginning of the loop), it's rather simple - the loop length effectively doubles in the time domain, however, this is, as you pointed out, not as simple if you use more complex rate shifting patterns. However, when I do that, I usually like to have that happen in steady timing intervals, not in steady "loop content intervals", so doing the shift sequence with commands sent from the sequencer in its time domain (instead of shifting from a loop at specific 8ths/subcycles) will keep the rhythmically very noticeable shifts at the timing intervals where I want them - and I can make up for any resulting misalignment by using the retrigger wherever I need it. Best, Rainer