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> Per said: >> > .......how about that midi sequencing in the LP-1 and Mobius? >> Not Mobius if you ask me. On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Rainer Straschill<moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > Interesting to hear that. I believe to get your point regarding > staying in the timing scheme of a loop when doing rate shifts as > opposed to a strict time base coming from a sequencer, but I found, on > the other hand, using a pattern sequencer like Ableton Live (which I > do use mainly as a VST host for, among other things, Mobius) does > actually help if you want to stay in some sort of absolute time frame. > In a way, this comes close to what Claude Voit used to do with the > pattern sequencer of a Nord Modular G2 in combination with some EDPs. > > For the general concept, I quickly found that when controlling Mobius > with a sequencer, I tend to turn off any quantization and only keep > sync within Mobius (if and when applicable) but not between Mobius and > the sequencer via VST Host or MIDI sync, instead assuring sync via > retriggers sent from the sequencer. > When using the simple forms of rate shift (e.g. going into halfspeed > at the beginning of the loop), it's rather simple - the loop length > effectively doubles in the time domain, however, this is, as you > pointed out, not as simple if you use more complex rate shifting > patterns. > However, when I do that, I usually like to have that happen in steady > timing intervals, not in steady "loop content intervals", so doing the > shift sequence with commands sent from the sequencer in its time > domain (instead of shifting from a loop at specific 8ths/subcycles) > will keep the rhythmically very noticeable shifts at the timing > intervals where I want them - and I can make up for any resulting > misalignment by using the retrigger wherever I need it. Yup, you have it perfectly right, Rainer! I would do it just as you, if I would want to control the looper's actions from external MIDI sequences. But today I just find scripting simpler. A simple and minimal performance rig opens up for more adventurous playing, which is where I have always wanted to place my priorities. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com