Re: Samples and looping

[Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>]

Title: Re: Samples and looping

Well, well, well..!  There's a straw man argument wrapped in an ad homenim attack... nobody is 'rewriting music history' or 'glossing over' anything... Jerry Lieber told me what I wrote here (on this very small mailing list) after dinner one day.

I'm sure that your 'music lore' account has some truth to it, but I wasn't there so I can't say for sure.

> hound dog was written by lieber and
> stoller by substituting the word "hound dog" for the
> original "m-----f-----" which is what was in the big mama
> thorton original.  otherwise, the chords, melody, arrangement and
> majority of the rest of the words are as she wrote it.  this is
> an acknowledged part of music lore, just as pat boone made a whole
> career out of re-recording tracks from "race records" of the
> time and releasing them weeks after their original release to
> thunderous approval on the "white charts."  to gloss
> over this unfortunate chapter of music history by attempting to
> rewrite it is disgraceful.
>
> time
>
> --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: Samples and looping
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:22 AM
> >
> >
> > Hound Dog was written by Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller who
> > also produced Big Mama Thornton's record. Elvis heard that
> > and loved it. He re-recorded it.  Lieber and Stoller
> > still got their royalties. :)
> >
> > > Per is arguing the law -- i.e., the law protects
> > composer's rights. Louigi is arguing about what he believes
> > the law should say -- the composer gets paid by whoever
> > commissioned the work and after that it's fair game. So, in
> > the case of Hound Dog, unless Elvis had a deal with Big Mama
> > Thornton to write the song, in Louigi's world, Elvis owes
> > nothing for using the song. (If I've mischaracterized the
> > positions, I apologize.)
> > >
> > > Mark
> >
> >
> > -- ...
> > http://www.zmix.net
> >
> >

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