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so true, that it is a straw man argument. of course, lieber had no reason to remember it any differently, i'm sure, since lieber/stoller have successfully sued for copyright infringement more than any other songwriting team. and actually, elvis fell in love with a completely different version of the song than the original. time > Re: Samples and looping > Well, well, well..! There's a straw man > argument wrapped in > an ad homenim attack... nobody is 'rewriting music > history' or > 'glossing over' anything... Jerry Lieber told me > what I wrote here (on > this very small mailing list) after dinner one > day. > I'm sure that your 'music lore' account > has some truth to it, but > I wasn't there so I can't say for sure. > > > hound dog was written by > lieber and > stoller by substituting the word "hound dog" for > the > original "m-----f-----" which is what was in the > big mama > thorton original. otherwise, the chords, melody, > arrangement and > majority of the rest of the words are as she wrote > it. this is > an acknowledged part of music lore, just as pat boone made > a whole > career out of re-recording tracks from "race > records" of the > time and releasing them weeks after their original release > to > thunderous approval on the "white charts." > to gloss > over this unfortunate chapter of music history by > attempting to > rewrite it is disgraceful. > > > > time > > > > --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Charles Zwicky > <cazwicky@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > > > From: Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> > > > Subject: Re: Samples and looping > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:22 AM > > > > > > > > > Hound Dog was written by Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller > who > > > also produced Big Mama Thornton's record. Elvis > heard that > > > and loved it. He re-recorded it. Lieber and > Stoller > > > still got their royalties. :) > > > > > > > Per is arguing the law -- i.e., the law protects > > > composer's rights. Louigi is arguing about what he > believes > > > the law should say -- the composer gets paid by > whoever > > > commissioned the work and after that it's fair > game. So, in > > > the case of Hound Dog, unless Elvis had a deal with > Big Mama > > > Thornton to write the song, in Louigi's world, > Elvis owes > > > nothing for using the song. (If I've > mischaracterized the > > > positions, I apologize.) > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > -- ... > > > http://www.zmix.net > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ... > > http://www.zmix.net > >