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hi Luis, (and loopers everywhere suffereing the "mixer problem") I had a really good look at the Alesis 8Line. The chips used are the cheapest op amps available for audio. The construction is good enough, but not better than Behringer ( held together by self tap screws). The "tech support" on the website never replies at all. As it's a line mixer though, the cheap chips only have to do 1:1 amplification, which means the sound quality doesn't suffer too much. I wouldn't consider it for studio use, but for live work I think it's going to scrape by. As for noise levels...less than the EDPs. I was able to successfully mod the 8Line so that the mic input, and one other, are sent to the FX send without going to the main mix. That's a very easy hack to do which makes the mixer loop friendly, just clipping a few wires. (plus of course the 3 days to work out which wires to clip because Alesis won't provide docs). I also added switches for that, which is a bit harder, but allows a bit of flexibility. I reckon it wouldn't be hard to do other mods to the 8Line, luike re=routing I don't know the Rolls stuff at all, don't even know if there's a European dealer. ...but I mailed their tech support to test them out on your behalf ;-) Anyway, those 2 mixers have very different feature lists, surely that's the first consideration? andy butler L.Angulo wrote: > hey Andy, > Still investigating this. > Which one do you think is better in terms of sound quality between this >and the Rolls RM 65B? > > specs here for both > > http://www.rolls.com/pdf/DS_RM65.pdf > > http://www.alesis.com/multimix8line > > anyone? > > > > > > > > >> Is this the ideal small mixer we've >> all been looking for? >> >> Alesis Multimix 8 Line. 1u mixer for looping. >> http://www.alesis.com/multimix8line. >> >> >> Feature list and mini review. >> >> features >> >> All connections on 1/4 unbalanced jacks unless otherwise >> noted. >> 8 stereo/mono input channels, vol, balance, fx send >> *Stereo* FX send ( works with channel pan/balance, for each >> channel) >> stereo FX return (with vol control) >> Channel 1 switches to a mono microphone input, XLR, no >> phantom. >> Main outs on balanced jacks with master vol. >> >> ..and some additional connections on *stereo* 1/4 in jacks >> Monitor out...after master vol >> Mix out ...before master vol >> Input to main bus. >> Input to fx bus. >> (those last 3 are officially for daisy chaining 2 or more >> units). >> >> Comments >> 1) stereo fx bus....that's very useful >> 2) seems well built, and sounds ok. Not noisy. >> 3) none of the controls has a 0dB calibration, which makes >> set up that much harder. ( the cheap Behringer >> stuff often has this). Not really a problem. >> 4) the mic input sounds good enough for live work with good >> full range response. Not for studio though, there's >> a distinctive quality/color to the transient response, and >> no 48V. >> 5) Mic pre-amp doesn't have an insert, and there's no way >> to make fx send pre fade. In simple terms >> this means you can't EQ the mic, or compress it. >> (and can't use my Vortex patches!) >> 6) the additional connectors available give some >> scope for extra routing, as long as you >> don't mind using Y-cables. >> 7) neither of the 2 additional outputs has an independent >> vol control, (such as would be useful for >> sending to Zoom H2 for recording) >> 8) there's no mixer schematic in the manual, it's printed >> on the top of the unit. Obviously >> when you rack the unit you no longer have the >> schematic which is the only way to see >> the mixer features at a glance. >> 9) Balanced outs means that you only need a couple of jack >> to XLR converters and >> you're able to say " I have my own DI box" to any >> sound engineer you encounter when playing live. >> This reduces their anxiety about how to deal with >> your complex setup to zero. >> 10) no official way to make sends pre-fade, which would >> make the unit much more usable. >> >> Conclusion >> Very nearly a neat way to route your looping gear, and add >> a microphone >> with just a 1u unit. >> >> If you don't need to use the mic-pre there's no real minus >> points to the mixer, >> apart from lack of pre-fade sends. >> Sound quality is easily good enough for live work. >> >> Big disappointment is the implementation of the mic input. >> There's no way to >> eq the mic, so unless you want a flat response, and have a >> dynamic mic that >> will give that you can't really this mixer. Using with an >> SM58, for instance, will >> just give you that unclear boxy sound which is normally >> filtered out at the desk. >> So, probably ok for announcements that no-one understands. >> I'm ok, I have a Sennheiser 421 which works very well for >> feeding assorted >> acoustic sounds into the loops (on the fx send), but those >> aren't exactly >> cheap. >> Generally, anyone looking to add a mic to their setup ( or >> to remove a mic-pre >> to save weight/space) is going to be frustrated. >> >> Further investigation. >> It must be possible to mod this unit so that there's a way >> to eq( or Vortex) the mic. >> but no service sheet available. >> >> I emailed Alesis tech support, US *and* UK and was sent a >> pair of automated responses >> promising a reply within 2 days....about a week ago. >> >> >> >> >> >> andy butler >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! 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