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Hey Andy, I actually just figured it out (I did have the EDP's mix all the way up). The A&H's effects route through Auxes 5&6. I had the EDP going to Aux 5. The problem turns out that I have to also turn up Aux 4, to make the sound full again. I am just guessing, but Aux 4 probably mixes in the unlooped signal, thus making it sound full? Anyway, it works and thanks for all of your help. Todd On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:20 PM, andy butler wrote: > you need to set the EDP Mix control full up > (wet only) > > > > Todd Chambeau wrote: >> Hey Andy, >> I spoke too soon. It works, however after I put down the original >> loop, any overdubbing comes out extremely thin (EQ wise) the volume >> is there, but it sounds like all of the mids and highs are turned >> to 10. >> I turned off all of the internal effects etc., and tried a couple >> of the other aux channels, but no luck. >> Close but yet so far. >> Todd >> On Nov 28, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote: >>> Thanks Andy, >>> >>> The A&H actually sends it's internal effects over aux 5&6. >>> I ended up running the input to the EDP from Aux 1, then kept the >>> output of the EDP to the Stereo Input and this does work, I have a >>> wet loop. >>> I am not really sure why this works, since I thought only Aux 5&6 >>> were the routable internal effects auxes. Even on the effects list >>> right, on top of the board, it has an option for one set of >>> effects for Aux 5 and another for Aux 6? >>> >>> Thanks again for helping me out. >>> Todd >>> >>> >>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:19 AM, andy butler wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Todd, >>>> >>>> Firstly, let's assume that you're using the EDP on a send other >>>> than >>>> Aux 5, which you also say is an internal fx send. >>>> >>>> The whole secret is that you don't *need* to use an input >>>> intended for >>>> fx return to bring an fx back into the mixer. >>>> Bring them back on a regular channel, and then you can do any >>>> additional >>>> routing with ease >>>> >>>> >>>> For full flexibility you need to route the Mixer's FX out of the >>>> mixer, >>>> and bring them back on a regular fx channel. I don't know your >>>> specific mixer, so I can't tell you if that's >>>> possible. >>>> However, if the internal fx has a send to a particular Aux then >>>> just put the EDP on that Aux and you're sorted. >>>> >>>> >>>> If the internal fx only go to the main output and nowhere else >>>> then your only option is to bring the EDP back on Channel 3 >>>> and add your fx onto the dry audio in the looper, that's not >>>> going to get the exact sound you want in the case that you're >>>> looping >>>> both guitar and voice, but then it's the best you're gonna get. >>>> >>>> andy butler >>>> >>>> >>>> Todd Chambeau wrote: >>>>> Looperz, >>>>> I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex >>>>> through a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2. >>>>> I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6. >>>>> Basically, giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay, >>>>> vocals on channel 2 with a hall reverb. >>>>> The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals >>>>> become dry. I would like to have the loops wet. >>>>> The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and >>>>> the EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the >>>>> mixer. >>>>> I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck. >>>>> I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the >>>>> life of me, I cannot figure this out. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Todd >>>> >>> >