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In advance I have to say that, I suppose there are a large variety of approaches to Content and Performance, and assume in advance that this is one zone in which we will tend to not agree with each other. Exchange of ideas continues to change ourselves nonetheless... One bit of memory knocked loose by this discussion: When rock acts started dressing up, and then went beyond that to light shows, video backdrops, auxiliary performers running round the audience like circus clowns, etc - at least in the 70s I recall that many of the pundits of the time derided such visual enhancements, often pointing to same as some kind of 'evidence' that the music itself must be lacking somehow, or otherwise below some arbitrary line dividing Art from Crap. I have the feeling that such faux hierarchical discrimination has been going on as long as there have been Art, and Art Pundits ("Too many notes" comes to mind). I am sure that there are acts that nearly require a light show due to the relative paucity of musical content, just as I am sure that there are acts that present themselves as a complete package of audio and video production/performance. I started using the good old Psychedelic Screen Saver as a visual enhancement waaay back in 1996, when playing houses in the LA area, because it reacted to the sound I was making in a manner I could control. I suppose if some enterprising soul had come forward to offer to make interactive video effects or an otherwise-termed light show, it would have been easier to implement; but I wouldn't have wanted the video to be more important than the music, while not wanting the video to appear piddlingly simple or something less than I thought it should be. I have never had anyone tell me that I should use a certain number of brushes, pens or pencils when producing visual art, and so how different (if not invalid) is it to try to do the same to music or music-video, or multimedia etc.? I find the current situation with video streaming to be exciting, as the natural, not-by-design constraints of the medium are still a major factor; working with them brings out the creative in us, and leads to all sorts of outgrowth and innovations. Me, I would just like a webcam edit-patch that overlays a pre-existing video with a degree of transparency (to distinguish from the already-available 'green screen' type methods used well for instance by Jeff Duke. One effect I hadn't planned on is that, having scheduled a daily show from 5-6pm gmt, a complete, undisturbed block of time now exists here into which even a phone call doesn't intrude. In the absence of a proper working studio and during the Christmas holidays, it has been an unplanned-for and nice surprise to me. Go ahead, say "Duh!". Labels continue to be used by big music companies to deride us independents: remember "bedroom musician"? It implied that we all still lived with our parents, ensconced away in our corner with a computer and a few instruments, like some sort of ineffectual geeks. I await the Big Five's new terminology to describe those of us who are composing, performing and publishing our own work, as well as using streaming video to do so. I wonder about the addressing of the Art we create, and whether we can keep listening to Les Paul's warning about not letting the technology control what you create, while still working with constraints that can potentially do just that. I look forward to much better than we have presently, especially considering what personal video/audio streaming WASN'T just a few years ago, and fully intend to investigate the role of a multimedia (for lack of a better term) artist in the future. Stephen Goodman "Twelve Days of Christmas Plus 1" at ustream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/twelve-days-of-christmas-1---2009 * http://www.earthlight.tv http://www.ustream.tv/StephenGoodman http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman -------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Davignon" <mattdavignon@gmail.com> > I don't think there's any single concrete element one can add to any > type of music to make people accept it more. By concrete elements, I'm > talking about things like video, audience participation, unusual > instruments, cowbell, synth washes, drum machines, etc. > > Video in particular is often a distraction from the music, except in > cases where the two were purposefully created together as a single > work. > > My theory for musical success in any genre (myself being a relatively > unsuccessful musician) goes something like this: > --Develop a unique and clear musical persona. > --Think about which elements of your performance highlight your > musical persona, and which elements detract from it. > --Consider that you have an audience, or at least a potential > audience. When you play in public or create an album, it should be for > your audience, rather than for yourself. > --The audience wants to hear you, as you can best represent yourself. > They don't necessarily want you to play things they've heard before or > would expect from other musicians. > --Lastly, dumb luck. The people who have the most success in any kind > of music not only follow the above 3 steps, but their musical personas > happen to be something that a lot of people want to listen to. > > > And if you make "challenging" music, never describe it to people that > way. Telling people, "Hey, let's listen to some challenging music" is > like saying "Hey, let's do some calculus for fun!" You may get some > takers, but they'll be the musical equivalent of math nerds. (And > about as common as math nerds.) There are lots of people who liked > Frank Zappa, Philip Glass, John Cage, John Zorn, Einsturzende > Neubauten, The Residents, Nurse With Wound, etc long before they found > out the music was supposed to be "challenging". > > -- > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt