Re: Digitech Jamman Delay Looper

[G <gigs@paradise.net.nz>]

Hi Tom
I love to improvise and enjoy exploring different sounds.  
I also use stereo effects adding more dimension.  

The first time I realised that I needed MIDI synced effects was when I
was jamming with my SMMH looper.  Among other things I use an
Adrenalinn3 multi-FX with time based modulation sequencer, nova delay,
plus delays on the SMMH.  The delays were long and needed to be in time
with each other, the modulations and loop for everything to work.

I did my utmost to get the loop length to match everything else, 
 lay down a groove just under 30 seconds, started improvising over it
overdubbing as I went along.  Initially it sounded great, but after a
minute things began to drift out of time with the loop giving it a
chorus effect, then slap back, then it all became obviously out of time
and fell apart.  Extremely frustrating.

With good MIDI sync effects & looper this won't happen.

The other thing MIDI is useful for is using a midi controller like the
FCB1010 foot pedal to change settings and programs.  At the moment I use
it to control my Adrenalinn3, pretty essential in my view.

You could use a drum machine for master sync.  
The Adrenalinn has a simple drum machine and can send midi sync signals,
but it doesn't provide start and stop signals, or anything else for that
matter which will be important with a looper.  There are a number of
other devices that can be used to control midi timing.

My long term goal, assuming I find a good midi-sync looping device for
my floorboard, is to get a Gordious Little Giant to go along with my
FCB1010 midi controller which among many other features can act as midi
sync master - and can send start, stop, and provide a midi timing
signal.  I'd connect the controller to a 4 way midi break out box
directly connected to Adrenalinn3, as well as whatever looper I end up
with, and a couple of other effects pedals - most likely Eventide
ModFactor and TimeFactor.

Cheers,
-- G.

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Digitech Jamman Delay Looper
From: TR <tomrollison@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 08:26:04 -0700 (PDT)
>Would you be using the midi to sync to a drum machine? I am looking to 
>pick one
>of these up and just trying to figure out what the cost /benefit ratio 
>is. For
>my style of playing,which is very improvisitorial, I am looking forward 
>to trying
>this. I'm sure I could dream up a scenario or two where midi could be 
>used. But
>I mostly want to record myself and others I'm playing with and introduce 
>those
>sounds back in on them selves. Sort of real time remix. That and 
>precompose some
>textures which would outline a compositional arc. Scarificing hard time 
>control
>wouldn't hurt too much for me because I want to keep that control in my 
>hands. 
>Or is there possibly more real time functionality that could be had via 
>midi?
>Just curious about this whole aspect of performing which I am really just
>starting to get serious about using. This forum is probably the most 
>intelligent
>music discussion I have found, especially for electronic inspired music.
>Thank you all.

>--- On Thu, 6/3/10, Teddy Kumpel <teddykumpel@mac.com> wrote:
>From: Teddy Kumpel <teddykumpel@mac.com>
>Subject: Re: Digitech Jamman Delay Looper
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 5:53 AM
>
>>I agree.... was really hoping to replace my RC-50 with that thing....
>>boo Digitech
>>
>>Teddy
>>--
>>PS.
>>--
>>http://teddyjam.com
>>new live recordings, always
>>
>>On Jun 2, 2010, at 9:35 PM, G wrote:
>>Just found out about the latest Digitech JamMan delay looper/phrase
>>pedal released this year, one of three:
>>http://www.digitech.com/specialtypedals.php
>>
>>Fantastic: stereo input/output, true stereo delay, stomp pedal, takes up
>>to 2GB memory cards offering hours of stereo looping per card, up to 99
>>loops/phrases per card, a number of useful features, and affordable for
>>what it is.  Brilliant.
>>Hang on ... no MIDI?  No midi control, no midi sync, why?
>>The frustration continues,
>>-- G.