Re: Unsubscribe

[Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net>]

Title: Re: Unsubscribe

Maybe the default should be that we all need to *resubscribe* each year, you know, like a magazine...!!!

CZ

> ...and once again, we've come to
> this.
>
> How should we unsubscribe...
> thoughts?
> 2010/6/11 donald freeman <dfreeman120@gmail.com>
> > Unsubscribe
> > > On Jun 10, 2010 9:08 PM, "Dennis
> > > Moser" <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > What Per said...go with the Intel model and you should be just
> > > fine.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have looked into hackintosh but I am not a programmer and I
> > > dont think I
> > > > could do this on my own. And Linux would be an option but... I
> > > dont know. I
> > > > am thinking of just getting a used iBook, macbook or power
> > > book...
> > > > for example...
> > > >
> > > > Apple iBook G4 1.33 GHz 12"  1GB Ram
> > > > 40 GB Harddrive... ( 300 euro)
> > > >
> > > > Apple PowerBook G4 12" 1,5Ghz 1,25GBRam 80Gb HDD SD (min.
> > > 300 euros)
> > > >
> > > > Apple Powerbook G4,17",1GHz,Airport, BT, 1,5GB, 80GB
> > > (375euros)
> > > >
> > > > APPLE MACBook 2GHZ 160GB 2GB Intel Core 2Duo (500euros)
> > > >
> > > > i think all they would be fast enough for live
> > > performance...playing some
> > > > midi instruments, sa...
> > > > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > > > Datum: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:17:18 +0900
> > > > Von: michael noble <looplog@gmail.com>
> > > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > > > Betreff: Re: looping with a netbook
> > > >
> > > > hi all,
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> However, there was a previous question that asked about
> > > running Live in
> > > >> Wine under Linux.  While Linux should be more robust
> > > overall, I believe the
> > > >> Wine libraries essentially load a virtual Windows machine.
> > >  So you're kind
> > > >> of running a computer inside a computer. Not very efficient,
> > > I don't
> > > >> believe, and I wouldn't recommend it, since Wine would
> > > probably eat up any
> > > >> performance gains you'd get from Linux.  However, take
> > > that with a grain of
> > > >> salt, since I haven't actually played with Wine since its
> > > alpha releases.
> > > >
> > > > This is not really accurate to my knowledge, and certainly does
> > > not reflect
> > > > my experience. Wine is no way a virtual machine. It is really
> > > nothing more
> > > > than a compatibility layer to translate windows api calls into
> > > something the
> > > > base system understands - it doesn't emulate software or hardware
> > > in any
> > > > way. This will add a small processing overhead, but it really is
> > > very
> > > > insignificant. Chances are, with a well configured linux system,
> > > performance
> > > > can be comparable to a windows system with the benefit of also
> > > being able to
> > > > use native linux audio apps.
> > > >
> > > > In the past I've run audiomulch under linux in this way, and in
> > > fact was
> > > > easily able to run eight simultaneous instances of audiomulch
> > > (preferring
> > > > parallel processes for performance and redundancy), passing their
> > > audio into
> > > > jack to be shared with linux apps and each other. With things
> > > like the
> > > > wineasio audio output and the realtime wine patches, wine audio
> > > apps can be
> > > > made to run very efficiently and at low latencies. This was an
> > > older
> > > > core2duo though, so a netbook would be a little more limited.
> > > Also, it's not
> > > > an out-of-the-box experience, so if system configuration and
> > > optimization is
> > > > not your thing, then maybe consider the hackintosh route. (that
> > > being said
> > > > there are some audio-centric linux audio distros optimized for
> > > low power
> > > > machines like puredyne, and you can also buy a preconfigured
> > > msi-wind
> > > > netbook with the Tranmission OS for not much more than a standard
> > > netbook
> > > > price).
> > > >
> > > > So to answer the OPs question, windows audio apps can be made to
> > > run very
> > > > efficiently under linux and with very low latencies. That being
> > > said, I
> > > > really couldn't say about running later versions of ableton live.
> > > I don't
> > > > have nor need it so I haven't tested it. It is rated gold over at
> > > WineHQ, so
> > > > it has certainly been tested and run by at least some people, and
> > > that's
> > > > without the tweaks I mentioned above.
> > > >
> > > > -michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > http://www.ubetoo.com/nirmala07
> > > > http://www.nirmala07.net
> > > >
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