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As more a child of the 70s than the 60s I add The Sex Pistols, The Clash, Ramones, Talking Heads, etc... To tag on to Rick's comments: My oldest son, who is 21, is an inspiration to me to re-visit and re-live my youthful ideals--doing good deeds, living frugally, and, as you said: eschewing the dominant paradigm. He calls me on my slack, makes me really think about why I do the things I do ( work in govt.) and questions authority. He just left Cambodia where he helped build water purification systems for rural villages and is now in Thailand working with kids. My youngest -18yo, also makes me think critically about my 'liberal' ideals by having to actually explain the goodness of caring about others rather than living for myself only --which is too damn easy at my age. I guess they don't constitute a mass consciousness but who knows that they may inspire their generation to rise up from the garbage of the Glenn Becks, O'Reillys, and other self centered self focused selfish louts. Peace out on these subdued holidaze J.D.Devros Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 15:36:21 -0800 From: g_demarest@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RE: the 60's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I may be lynched for saying it, but the 70s did offer up Frippertronics, Gentle Giant, Van der Graaf, Gong, Mahavishnu, Return to Forever, tons of great Zappa, King Crimson, Henry Cow, Yes, Genesis, etc. I guess it depends on your lens. gfd From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, December 21, 2010 4:34:57 PM Subject: Re: RE: the 60's Michael Peters wrote: > from a 56 yr old geezer: were the 70's really that bad? not to me From a 57 year old geezer (lol, I've never actually thought of myself as either old or a geezer but it's fun for this conversation) the 70's (especially the middle 70's) were particularly depressing because, as a musician, I witnessed all the freedom and creativity and openness of the Hippy movement supplanted by wide spread cultural depression and cynicism (I can only speak of Northern California where I lived). I saw this beautiful blossoming of culture and creativity usurped by the music industry who had figured out how much money could be made off of youth culture. I watched the fantastic free FM radio stations of the Bay Area with all of their amazingly eclectic radio shows put out of business and replaced by corporate run FM stations with play lists. I watched the Major Musical Labels muscle in on regional American music and try as hard as they could to establish monopolies. It was a very depressing time to me, but I was also a very angry young man struggling with my own internal demons so that had to have clouded the experience. I wouldn't see another blossoming of that kind of creativity until the early New Wave/Punk movements in the late 70's and early 80's........even so, there has always been a kind of cynicism that has accompanied a lot of the musical movements (well, perhaps not the New Age movement, but I just couldn't relate....lol) since those times in modern popular movements............well, either cynicism or the kind of mindless drug escapism that accompanied the Rave scene. The Psy Trance scene seems to have some kinship with those earlier days but I'm, personally, just not all that enamored, emotionally, with that type of music. Okay, I ramble...................but after all those psychedlics and psycho-tropic drugs (and others) I suppose it's a good thing that I can still muster complete sentences..........lol rick walker |