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> is there a way to to this with a script? can you delete > a piece off the end of a loop that's one 8ths per cycle long? I haven't read the entire thread but it looks like Trim was suggested which will be the easiest way to delete a piece off the end. Trim is similar to Multiply/Record or in EDP speak an "unrounded multiply" except that it happens instantly. Trim will obey the Quantize Mode parameter, so one approach would be to set Quantize Mode to Subcycle and then hit Trim End a little before the last subcycle. If you like to keep Quantize Mode off you can enable it just for Trim in a script. !name Quantized Trim Variable saveQuantize quantize set quantize off TrimEnd set quantize saveQuantize With a little more work we can make the script always wait until the beginning of the last subcycle no matter where you are in the loop. !name Trim Last Subcycle Varialbe lastSubcycle subcycles - 1 Wait until subcycle lastSubcycle TrimEnd Something to note about this though, is that after the trim the length of the subcycle changes. For Example say you start with a loop that is 2 seconds long and 8thsPerCycle is 4. When you run the script the first time the loop will shorten from 2 seconds to 1.5 seconds since 2 divided by 4 is .5. But the new shortened layer still has 4 subcycles in it so if you run the script again the trim amount will be shorter. 1.5 / 4 is .375 so the new loop length would be 1.125. The amount of trim will become progressively smaller every time you run the script. This might sound cool but is probably not what you're after. If you always want to trim an amount equal to the *original* subcycle length you could do this with a global variable. !name Trim Last Subcycle Variable global trimSubcycleLength 0 if trimSubcycleLength == 0 #first time here, remember the length set trimSubcycleLength subcycleFrames endif Variable trimFrame loopFrames - trimSubcycleLength if trimFrame <= 0 # we've trimmed down to 1 subcycle, reset the length set trimSubcycleLength 0 else Wait until frame trimFrame TrimEnd endif Anyone else like to unsubscribe? Jeff