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On Jan 16, 2011, at 2:33 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I think what matters is the experience > you offer the audience! THAT is the artistry - not the technology or > techniques you are using to achieve the communication. ("..in the eye > of the beholder..." etc etc) > > Per I concur and have been "guilty" of the same many times in the past and with no "complaints" from anyone. "Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." Wm. S. Burroughs :-) Cheers, Rev. Fever Portland, OR > > > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com> > wrote: >> Okay. I don't use pre-recorded loops. But I think I am coming to >> appreciate why most of the loop pedals out there (the LP2 soon to >> be an exception) are so feature limited. >> >> Once upon a time, I made have use of my EDP and played with >> feedback and next loop and all the rest. Hey, it was there, it was >> easy to grab, it was my first real looper in a long time. Fripp's >> Let the Power Fall had given me a taste for the 5-10 second loop >> with the feedback control at less than 100%. Etc. >> >> Then the EDPs drifted out of my rack. First to try to make room >> for an LP1 and then because I was trying to go rackless and ended >> up using the looper on the M13. >> >> Now I find myself fairly routinely recording a loop, closing it in >> overdub mode purely to avoid cutting off the sound, maybe >> overdubbing a bit more, and then showing a tendency to just let it >> play while I improvise/noodle/whack-off (choose your description). >> And you know what? I like working this way. The loop fills the >> sonic landscape in, but it lets me concentrate on the guitar >> rather than on the loop. >> >> So, I've got the LP1 and it does all sorts of wonderful things and >> under pressure from Bill I've even jury rigged myself a MIDI foot >> controller (I now have a very confused EDP). What do I do? I >> record static loops and let them play. Maybe I throw them into >> reverse of half-speed. Maybe I turn on scramble. And I generally >> set up multiple loops often of different lengths. But after >> getting a few loops going and mixed, it all just becomes backing >> tracks. >> >> When does my Looper's Delight membership card get pulled? When do >> I stop getting invited to Santa Cruz to perform? ;-) >> >> Or in the quest for a rackless system, maybe what I need is a >> simple looper or two to do the backing tracks thing and a long >> delay line with feedback and a way to mute the input to do the >> Frippertronics-style thing. The only issue is that I'd like the >> latter to be syncable to the former so that it doesn't all just >> become a mish-mash of unsynced loops -- though that can be fun in >> its own right. The LP2 might actually be a great choice here given >> support for things like quantized replace, but last I knew it >> wasn't stereo friendly the way even the DL4 is (although it's a >> mono looper) which means I'm back to worrying about needing mixing/ >> routine support and the benefits of shedding the rack may start to >> fade. >> >> So, it's probably stick with the rack, look for a real MIDI foot >> controller solution, and try to better exploit the LP1. >> >> I've got visions of an LP1 and my Korg AM8000R shoved inside >> something like the M13 with a really tuned performance model and >> control set, but that isn't going to happen and given the >> confession above, I have to ask whether I would really exploit it. >> But I'd certainly plunk down the money for it within reason... >> >> Mark >> >> >