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I'm also interested in the LP2's MIDI capabilities. I'm interested in all the Loopers and delay's that have good solid MIDI implantation. Especially in the sync department. I mean, with out it there is no good way to keep things aligned. It's totally necessary unless your are only interested in using the one looper and doing simple layering, and no other accompaniment such as drums machines, or programmed keyboards. Especially if you want to use interesting live loops along with a live drummer and a band, you really need to have some sort of click or flashing light for everyone to follow. I know, you can create a loop and have the band adhere to that loop very closely, but I find that it just doesn't leave you with enough safety and security to do anything interesting. (As you know Luis) I'm currently fighting with a pair of EDPs and an MPC 1000, trying to get them all to stick to the clock from the MPC. They drift and my performance sounds drunk at best, and a train wreck at the worst. I also have an AdreanaLinn (the A2, not the newer A3). I find the 2 measure drum loops to stay in sync quite well. It even stays in line when switching presets by sending it Program changes throughout a sequence. Even if that program change is sent in a strange place within the 2 measures. Unfortunately I don't really like the guitar modeling sounds very much, and the input of the unit clips and distorts pretty easly. I like the interesting electro-clash industrial electronic sounding drum sounds. I love the synced effects, why more units haven't employ this feature is beyond me. One thing to take note of with the AdreanaLinn is that if you are playing guitar through it and send program changed to it to change to a different preset or drumbeat, you will hear it drop out or click. John M. On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > Im interested in the LP2s midi capabilities,i think thats what would > also make it a seller and beat the upcoming new stomp loopers > competition,none of them seem to be midi. > if i may suggest some essential midi functions which are also in the EDP > > Start/stop > MuteReAlign - Immediately Mute and restart the loop at next Global > MIDI StartPoint > QuantMIDIStartSong - Wait to next Local Loop StartPoint and then send > a StartSong > MuteQuantMIDIStartSong - Immediately Mute, then wait to next > StartPoint and send StartSong > Retrigger > > if it did this the LP2 combined with the Adrenalinn would b the bomb! > Luis > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:29 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> >wrote: >> >> >> Matt Davignon wrote: >>> >>> The effects look like looping-related commands. >> >>> I don't know what the "retrigger" or "replace" ones do. It looks like >>> you can assign the above effects to 2 footswitches. >>> >> >> >> I've discussed those briefly with Rick, and plus a bit of speculation. >> >> Replace 1/x is a direct emulation of a certain specific edp behaviour, >> (also present on LP1). >> It replaces a single quantised chunk of the loop with input audio. >> In EDPish it's a "Shortpress of Quantised 8th Replace". >> >> I'm quite excited by that, while that effect has been around since >> 2003 it's was always somewhat hidden away in the more expensive >products. >> If it catches on it could open up a lot of interest in the whole >> "looper as instrument" idea. >> >> I guess the vanilla Replace would be unquantised momentary >> (replace for as long as button is held) >> In that case, it's possible that quantised replaces will also >> cut out larger chunks if held for longer (but >> Retrigger is more or less what's offered by the DL4 >> Retrigger Once. Play the loop once from beginning then stop. >> Continue. Retrigger Continuous. Retrigger loop from beginning and keep >> going. >> Retrigger Random. Jump to a random point in the loop. >> The Random Retrigger is intended to be used rhythmically, >> I guess the loop would be filled with a variety of >> sounds (with slow attacks) so that rapid operation of the randtrig >> produced a well defined beat. >> Again, that's a very "looper as instrument" type feature. >> >> >> I don't think it's been pointed out yet that the LP2 >> has a Mix control (back panel) which, unusually for a small looper, >makes it >> suitable for use on an Aux send. >> >> andy butler >> >> >> >> >> >> >