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Hey John, well i dont really use its amp simulations and FXs for guitar anymore,although they are awesome,i find that the adrenalinn sucks up too much tone unfortunately. But i use them for the drums!! try those filers and amp simlutations plus the distortions on them and it turns the drums into a whole new instument, try it out! thats why im so insistent on finding a stomp midi looper that will slave a drum machine like this,very fun and it can spice up your performance! Luis On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:49 AM, John Metzler <jarofjam@me.com> wrote: > I'm also interested in the LP2's MIDI capabilities. I'm interested in >all the Loopers and delay's that have good solid MIDI implantation. > Especially in the sync department. I mean, with out it there is no good >way to keep things aligned. It's totally necessary unless your are only >interested in using the one looper and doing simple layering, and no >other accompaniment such as drums machines, or programmed keyboards. > Especially if you want to use interesting live loops along with a live >drummer and a band, you really need to have some sort of click or >flashing light for everyone to follow. I know, you can create a loop and >have the band adhere to that loop very closely, but I find that it just >doesn't leave you with enough safety and security to do anything >interesting. > > (As you know Luis) I'm currently fighting with a pair of EDPs and an MPC >1000, trying to get them all to stick to the clock from the MPC. They >drift and my performance sounds drunk at best, and a train wreck at the >worst. I also have an AdreanaLinn (the A2, not the newer A3). I find >the 2 measure drum loops to stay in sync quite well. It even stays in >line when switching presets by sending it Program changes throughout a >sequence. Even if that program change is sent in a strange place within >the 2 measures. Unfortunately I don't really like the guitar modeling >sounds very much, and the input of the unit clips and distorts pretty >easly. I like the interesting electro-clash industrial electronic >sounding drum sounds. I love the synced effects, why more units haven't >employ this feature is beyond me. One thing to take note of with the >AdreanaLinn is that if you are playing guitar through it and send program >changed to it to change to a different preset or drumbeat, you will hear >it drop out or click. > > John M. > > > On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:43 PM, Louie Angulo wrote: > >> Im interested in the LP2s midi capabilities,i think thats what would >> also make it a seller and beat the upcoming new stomp loopers >> competition,none of them seem to be midi. >> if i may suggest some essential midi functions which are also in the EDP >> >> Start/stop >> MuteReAlign - Immediately Mute and restart the loop at next Global >> MIDI StartPoint >> QuantMIDIStartSong - Wait to next Local Loop StartPoint and then send >> a StartSong >> MuteQuantMIDIStartSong - Immediately Mute, then wait to next >> StartPoint and send StartSong >> Retrigger >> >> if it did this the LP2 combined with the Adrenalinn would b the bomb! >> Luis >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:29 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> >wrote: >>> >>> >>> Matt Davignon wrote: >>>> >>>> The effects look like looping-related commands. >>> >>>> I don't know what the "retrigger" or "replace" ones do. It looks like >>>> you can assign the above effects to 2 footswitches. >>>> >>> >>> >>> I've discussed those briefly with Rick, and plus a bit of speculation. >>> >>> Replace 1/x is a direct emulation of a certain specific edp behaviour, >>> (also present on LP1). >>> It replaces a single quantised chunk of the loop with input audio. >>> In EDPish it's a "Shortpress of Quantised 8th Replace". >>> >>> I'm quite excited by that, while that effect has been around since >>> 2003 it's was always somewhat hidden away in the more expensive >products. >>> If it catches on it could open up a lot of interest in the whole >>> "looper as instrument" idea. >>> >>> I guess the vanilla Replace would be unquantised momentary >>> (replace for as long as button is held) >>> In that case, it's possible that quantised replaces will also >>> cut out larger chunks if held for longer (but >>> Retrigger is more or less what's offered by the DL4 >>> Retrigger Once. Play the loop once from beginning then stop. >>> Continue. Retrigger Continuous. Retrigger loop from beginning and keep >>> going. >>> Retrigger Random. Jump to a random point in the loop. >>> The Random Retrigger is intended to be used rhythmically, >>> I guess the loop would be filled with a variety of >>> sounds (with slow attacks) so that rapid operation of the randtrig >>> produced a well defined beat. >>> Again, that's a very "looper as instrument" type feature. >>> >>> >>> I don't think it's been pointed out yet that the LP2 >>> has a Mix control (back panel) which, unusually for a small looper, >makes it >>> suitable for use on an Aux send. >>> >>> andy butler >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >