----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 5:27
PM
Subject: semi-OT: practice amp for
looping
hi ben-
here's my recommendation-
i do mostly guitar loops, occasionally use my drum
machine, use to feed it random stuff recorded from small digital voice
recorder (searching for a new one of these for simple recording....)
as a guitarist, i've owned one small tube amp in my
life (kustom tube 12A-ok, didn't love, still have)...to my ear, guitar amps
are just so MID-RANGEY.
now i realize that most guitarists love this sound, and
of course all the classic guitarists, i love their sound (and chased it too
long....endless, although i always went gtr, since
i didn't want to spend a fortune on amps). a few yrs
ago when my 50 watt SS amp died & the repair i paid double the price of
the original amp for, didn't last more than 9 mo's. i decided to go small
cheap, had little 10 watt marshall (ok), then got the kustom above (ok), but i
found that for me, the tiny speakers, just SUCK! now i don't play loud at all
at home in my studio, and i honestly don't know the size of the speaker of my
old 50 watt amps (probably 10", might have been 12"), after 2 yrs of small
amps and hating them, i decided to start a hunt. Jeff Duke uses a portable PA
system amp in a bunch of his vids & I F***ING loved his sounds, but
it's a newish amp still, and couldn't find any for under 200 beans (i'm a
budget guy). so about a yr & 1/2 ago i found a Fender Keyboard 60 amp at a
local pawn shop (my fave pawn shop that i bought a million guitars from closed
back in '05, sadly), did some research, saw a few people on harmony-central
used them for gtr, i tested the amp at the place w/ some crappy guitar there
& it sounded ok. got it home, feed it my system & setup, AND I
LOVE IT. it's very clean, which i like (this probably comes out of the nels
cline model-clean amp, dirt from pedals), but i think the range of sounds is
much greater than a guitar amp , to my ear. i like the distortion to come from
my pedals, and i like digital distortion (this probably puts me out of the
running for "guitar purist/tone snob" category). but i like the sound of it.
actually i hate playing direct now, which i would always do when i was
obsessively recording things a few yrs ago, i used to favor my direct sound
over my "live in studio sound"but not anymore.
so i think keyboard amps are great, or at least i like
my Fender Keyboard 60 amp. it's the only fender thing i've ever owned in my 28
yrs of playing....
my setup: homemade gtr-digitech rp150-fuzz machine
(fuzz factory clone)-way huge swollen pickle-digitech dl8-EH 16ddl ri-boss
slicer-behringer tweakalizer-lexicon mx200-out to my fender keyboard 60
amp.
oh, i have no idea how old it is, i got it for $105, i
don't use the reverb on it, and i never mess w/ the tone knobs on it-i
think i have everything tone wise on 10. i keep the volume a bit low, so i
don't blow out the house,it has some bottom end when i crank it. i can make
the house rattle a bit, have to do that when everyone is gone....ha...
happy hunting....
-IT IS F***ING HEAVY, i would hate to move the thing
around for gigging, your back would be shot moving it.....mine stays
put...
the new(ish) songs posted to my myspace thing are loop
experiments recorded live w/ the fender amp to my
fostex digital recorder , from a while ago.....
s---
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Ruelle Benoit
<benoitruelle@yahoo.fr>
wrote:
Hello,
I'm sure I'll get some good advice from the
looping community so even if it's a bit OT, i'll ask.
I'm searching a
small amp to practice at home. Something under 150$ and I think that with
15W, it will be enough.
I investigated something like the fender mustang,
the line6 spider or roland cube but I'll use this mainly for looping and
it would be nice to have a solution where I can overdub differents
sounds with different FX.
As I won't find any amp with an FX loop in
this price range and i already have some amp modelling tool ( zoom G2 and
Johnson J-Station), would it be OK to buy a keyboard amp instead. The range
will be wider and I can also us it to loop bass/synth and voice. Any inputs
regarding this solution? Any proposal? I already tested putting my J-sation
into my home HiFi but I don't get the response I expect from a guitar amp.
It seems to lack some compression and I don't get the "oomph" that I can get
even with a very low budget amp (think the squier you get with beginner
pack).
Thank you for any
info;
Ben.
