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Thanx i hear you brosky,im just experimenting with it really,the fun thing about the adrenalinn is those crazy filters,they are meant for guitar but if u apply them to the drums they take way the sterility of the precanned.And syncing them to the homebrewed EDPs loops it can be fun.The thing has been sitting in a box with all my toys for a while so im having fun playing with it again. I totally agree that live it might be more fo an eye catcher,i guess im looking for quicker ways to do the whole looping thing,i get bored sometimes,perhaps lazy trying to avoid that typical time to construct a groove with my mouth,seems like everyone is doing it now,and im not very good a it anyway,even less when i watch guys like kid Beyond or that guy DubFX i mean this guys really have something beatbox to show. But to be honest the minute i hear people rapping to them i get turned off. cheers Luis > > As an example, I love and support Luis Angulo to do anything he wants >to do > with his Adrenallin in performance, but > personally, I love it the most when he's not using programmed beats but > playing percussion himself. He's > one funky motherfunker, in my opinion and the visceral quality of what he > loops, percussively is always outstanding. > > We're looping so it's artificial as hell, but , to me, it feels more >'real' > to do it that way. > Here's to illusion!!! > > respectfully, rick walker > >