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Re: Why does mainstream seem more like , downstream these days?

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I see making music and listening to music more like a way to develop a process... like the process of processing. so each song out there is happening in a performative moment in time which reflects that moment and the present situation of the musician, therefore I dont see any good and bad in music, i just see a social phenomena... that's why sometimes I am fascinating with music that is more mainstream... or kitsch... in the end I dont there is such thing as kitsch...

I dont care much for what Adorno said about popular music... or the way "serious" music is seen in a heirarchy.... that is so nonsense to me.

I liked reading this thread and seeing how the members of the listserver discuss this phenomena. If it is true that through the internet the word mainstream is losing more and more importance, then it must mean that the process of making music nowadays is becoming more and more a performative process.......


Am 14.02.11 22:34, schrieb Matt Stevens:
C9360B90-CBF6-40E3-A530-54F1C8546738@btinternet.com" type="cite"> I don't care what they call it as long as they listen.


On 14 Feb 2011, at 19:42, mark francombe wrote:

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:13 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Buzap Buzap wrote:

I took it to mean that it's all retro.


Fair comment?


God.. I didnt get that at ALL.. I just thought he meant its all crap!

Wow, I cant agree that its ALL retro no no no!!! But of course the
last 25 years sampling has by its nature resulted in a lot of
appropriated music... just cool in my book... hardly representative of
all music though!

Im sorry I just dont see that the genres have become erased... Im
terribly afraid that its just that we dont know what they are anymore!
It might be true that the kids are less genre specific, as in
sub-cultures.. not many NEW sub cultures around as far as I can see...
 here the kids is either Rich Kids or Hip Hop... ok and the occasional
emo kid (there always been one).

As for a genre-less world being a better world.. well .. maybe, in a
philosophical, religious and political sense... but when I get a night
out to go and see a band, I sure as HELL do NOT want to waste my
evening by accidentally going to a Country and Western Ho Down...
If its Metal... I want them to put METAL in a big metallic font,
preferably with barbed wire on it...
If its 4 hours of Gregorian chanting, I want the poster to say 4 hours
of Gregorian chanting, so I can think about it.

If I see a poster which says BILLS GOOD MUSIC... 5$ entry Girls
Free... I might walk past... If it says Bill Walkers Live Looping,
Glitchy, ambient, lapsteel.. 55$ Smart Dress Only... Im gonna run, get
me best togs on and sprint downtown... I might even comb my hair

Genres help... doesnt mean you have to stick to one...

M

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