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Re: OT Fretless makers



I would never use the regular epoxy; my experience is it doesn't harden 
up hard enough.
Over at sevenstring.org, Dan from Oni Guitars in Australia adviced using 
West System marine epoxy.

/van



Toby G wrote:
> I let it dry at least 24 hours.  It's the normal stuff you get at a 
> hardware store, nothing special.
> 
> toby
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim echols" <eekamouse67@yahoo.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers
> 
> 
> how long did you let the epoxy dry?  is it a regular epoxy or boat epoxy?
> 
> 
> time
> 
> --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Toby Graves <carpet8@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> From: Toby Graves <carpet8@mac.com>
>> Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 2:23 PM
>> Interesting thing I'm seeing: I
>> get the fretless fingerboard to the point it's really
>> smooth, but once tension is applied and there's some relief
>> on the neck the epoxy bulges up a little and you feel the
>> fret lines.
>>
>> toby
>>
>>
>> On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:44 AM, van Sinn wrote:
>>
>> > tim echols wrote:
>> >> we never had any problem with the epoxy or super
>> glue not sticking to the fingerboard. i play bass, so
>> i have no choice but to finish my neck or the monstrous
>> roundwounds would eat the neck to grooves. i have a 5string
>> that i picked up for cheap in a consignment shop because
>> someone had taken the frets out (and did a great job, better
>> than the old fender jazz i refinished) but had not filled in
>> the slots or finished the neck. i am having to stop
>> myself from playing because it is marking up the neck
>> considerably, and i do not play with a much vibrato that
>> would dig in. but i did find this:
>> >> 
>> 
>http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/sevenstring-guitars/138328-ngmd-fretless-content.html
> 
>>
>> >> seems like it describes a step-by-step vespa-based
>> finishing. hope it helps.
>> >> time
>> >
>> >
>> > Yup, I was going to refer this thread, but missed
>> among my saved list over there.
>> >
>> >
>> >> --- On Sat, 4/2/11, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>
>> wrote:
>> >>> From: van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>
>> >>> Subject: Re: OT Fretless makers
>> >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> >>> Date: Saturday, April 2, 2011, 4:34 PM
>> >>> An even better approach may be gluing
>> >>> a thin layer of trespa to the board; I've
>> heard some say
>> >>> it's the best material, superceeding ebony and
>> epoxy
>> >>> coatings.
>> >>>
>> >>> Trespa is made of layers of a cardboard-like
>> material,
>> >>> bonded with heat/pressure into a very hard
>> material. It can be processed/sanded.
>> >>> Only the phenylic filled, pressure
>> treated/compressed wood
>> >>> used by Zon basses should be better.
>> >>>
>> >>> I haven't tried it myself, but have an urge,
>> so some sunny
>> >>> day.. ;)
>> >>>
>> >>> BTW, if having problems gluing on (still oil
>> filled)
>> >>> fretboards, try contacting Gorilla Glue; I've
>> heard they
>> >>> have a product which should bond well to oily
>> surfaces.
>> >>>
>> >>> /van
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Toby Graves wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> The epoxy didn't seem to want to stick to
>> the surface
>> >>>
>> >>> of the fretboard when I've tried
>> it. I've only
>> >>> filled in slots with it.
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> toby
>> >>>> On Apr 1, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Kevin
>> Cheli-Colando
>> >>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>> Hello again,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> So I've pulled the frets on my guitar
>> and filled
>> >>>
>> >>> in the frets with
>> >>>
>> >>>>> epoxy. As soon as it dries I'll
>> be sanding
>> >>>
>> >>> them down and lowering the
>> >>>
>> >>>>> nut. My question to all you
>> DIYers who may
>> >>>
>> >>> have done this yourself,
>> >>>
>> >>>>> did you leave the fretboard as is
>> after you sanded
>> >>>
>> >>> the frets down
>> >>>
>> >>>>> again or did you cover the neck in
>> epoxy and
>> >>>
>> >>> smooth that down? I've
>> >>>
>> >>>>> seen it both ways and I thought I'd
>> get opinions
>> >>>
>> >>> from this august body
>> >>>
>> >>>>> of experimenters.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Kevin
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -- Till now you seriously considered
>> yourself to
>> >>>
>> >>> be the body and to have a
>> >>>
>> >>>>> form. That is the primal ignorance
>> which is the
>> >>>
>> >>> root cause of all trouble.
>> >>>
>> >>>>> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org
>> >>>>> Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -- rgds,
>> >>> van Sinn


-- 
rgds,
van Sinn